[Yaelle]

Steve is simply arguing that we need to BE MORE AGGRESSIVE on the psychological war by taking it to the source of the Islamofascist, the Islamic clerics.

I haven't read this whole thread so sorry for butting in. I remembered the John and Ken are going to be doing their radio show from a mosque in San Diego today, 3-7 p.m Pacific coast time (listen live on www.kfi640.com). They had been planning this before today's attacks. They are pretty irreverent and they want to talk live to American Muslims about terrorism. I believe this was the mosque where some of the 9/11 terrorists "worshipped." Should prove interesting.

[California74]

Thanks for the heads up! I'm definately going to listen.

Click below to listen to John & Ken on KFI starting at about 3:05pm pacific time (it's 2:10 now)

http://www.kfi640.com/interactive/streaming.html

And here's what John & Ken's website says:
After the U.K. terrorist bombings, John and Ken want answers from the Southern California Islamic community about the attacks. You are invited to attend a special John and Ken Show Today, July 21st, at the Orange County Islamic Foundation Mosque in Mission Viejo from 3 to 7pm. This is the first ever live radio broadcast from a mosque. You can visit their website at www.ocif.org. Click HERE for a map.

http://www.johnandkenshow.com/

[mpreston]

I remembered the John and Ken are going to be doing their radio show from a mosque in San Diego today, 3-7 p.m Pacific coast time (listen live on www.kfi640.com). They had been planning this before today's attacks. They are pretty irreverent and they want to talk live to American Muslims about terrorism. I believe this was the mosque where some of the 9/11 terrorists "worshipped." Should prove interesting.

Yes, that should be interesting. Keep us updated on what is said.

[combat_boots]

"Steve is simply arguing that we need to BE MORE AGGRESSIVE on the psychological war by taking it to the source of the Islamofascist, the Islamic clerics."

That idea is patently absurd on its face. No Westerner can possibly successfully penetrate the ideological or philosophical underpinnings of an imam's world view or training. Westerners by definition view the Middle Eastern muslim world view in the Hellenistic tradition of examining and researching the barbarian--the stranger. To argue or suggest that it is understandable except from someone's knee as a child and to grow in the culture is to severely underestimate the wall between the Western mind, the Occidental mind, and the Oriental one.

This is a long way around saying reasoning has nothing to do with any of this idea, and less to do with the goal and objective.