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Circular Politics and Blogs [Free Republic extreme?]
RedState.org ^ | Jul 16th, 2005 | By: Tim Saler

Posted on 07/16/2005 5:01:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: Jim Robinson
If we're "extremists" why is it that we're usually right?

We knew Powell wasn't going anywhere when liberals demanded his resignation. We know Ashcroft and Rumsfeld wouldn't resign, either. And we knew that this business about Rove was cooked up nonsense.

The same can't be said for the kooks at Democratic Underground or any other liberal site.

41 posted on 07/16/2005 5:28:19 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: NormsRevenge; Jim Robinson

Yeah...what NormsR said in 17. And furthermore, FR never claimed to SPEAK FOR this idiot author. Saler can go kick a different straw man......and stuff him up his......


42 posted on 07/16/2005 5:29:45 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Jim Robinson

FR extreme? What a joke, we support a President who won with 62 Million votes. That's 62 Million Americans who this dizzy author would call extremists!


43 posted on 07/16/2005 5:30:00 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and Friends, the rest can go to hell.)
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To: kcvl

Fine and dandy; But Tim has obviously informed me, certainly, that while his theory on "circularity of politics" is correct; he's clueless about what's really going on, politically, within the groups he denigrates "unitedly". His knowledge base on the groups he slams in his article... is about headline deep.


44 posted on 07/16/2005 5:30:38 PM PDT by Alia
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To: Jim Robinson

My chem teacher told me to my face that Free Republic is an extremist website, when I was surfing it in class. She thinks I'm insane, and that if I did any community service, I'd become a compassionate liberal... Well, I finished my Eagle Scout today, and I'm still a conservative. I think your forum's great.


45 posted on 07/16/2005 5:30:41 PM PDT by RedBeaconNY (A dyed in the wool conservative since the ripe age of 12.)
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To: kcvl

You always get to the heart of the matter - thanks!


46 posted on 07/16/2005 5:30:58 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Jim Robinson
The fact that Markos Moulitsas was invited to the FEC to speak about the freedom of bloggers, along with RedState's own Mike Krempasky, shows that he is considered one of the more prominent bloggers on the web. Why we, as members of the larger blog community, have allowed ourselves to be linked with this man of questionable decency, I do not know.

Jim, you do know that this is false right? You could have testified. I could have testifed. All we had to do was ask.

47 posted on 07/16/2005 5:31:07 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: kcvl

As I thought....a punk without a job.


48 posted on 07/16/2005 5:31:15 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Jim Robinson

"Could Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neill be friendly after 5 PM in the political world of 2005?

Ask yourself this - could George W. Bush and Nancy Pelosi, were she Speaker of the House? I seem to find it unlikely; not because Bush hates Pelosi, but because Pelosi seems to genuinely dislike the President, and the President's supporters would rip him to shreds..."

What stands out about this passage? "... Pelosi seems to genuinely dislike the President." Notice this same presumtion of hatred of the opponent is not extended towards President Bush. I believe that he is a decent Christian and could easily be friendly towards her, despite the ire and nausea it might provoke in some of us. The hatred is on the left.

It speaks volumes of him that this unintended compliment regarding his character should be recorded by the author of the article.


49 posted on 07/16/2005 5:31:53 PM PDT by DJ Frisat
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To: timpad

"Extreme" thanks for the post. I had never read that before, and appreciate it very much.


50 posted on 07/16/2005 5:32:38 PM PDT by melt (Someday, they'll wish their Jihad... Jihadn't.)
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To: Jim Robinson
The right constantly moves left because the right refuses to take the fight directly to the enemy. This in effect allows the left to pervade the government and educational structure, poisoning the minds of the young, using tricks of language, and winning the war against failed ideology by simple attrition and apathy.

I for one will never "make nice" with those who my some violent twist of emotion, lost their ability to reason and accept the foundations of this country and it's intrinsic goodness. You'd have a better chance taking a tin of corn muffins to a suicide bomber.

51 posted on 07/16/2005 5:33:13 PM PDT by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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To: perfect stranger

Yes, I've noticed a widespread use of profanity on the DU. Do they claim to be family-friendly too? I expect that if I started using swear words (often the F) on FR that I would be at least temporarily suspended. I would hope that the DU would hold the same high standard, but I suppose it's a violation of our first amendment... /sarc


52 posted on 07/16/2005 5:34:10 PM PDT by RedBeaconNY (A dyed in the wool conservative since the ripe age of 12.)
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To: melt
You're welcome. The whole thing...

53 posted on 07/16/2005 5:35:20 PM PDT by timpad (The Wizard Tim - Keeper of the Holy Hand Grenade, Finder of Obscurata)
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To: kcvl

Mr. Saler looks to be about 12.


54 posted on 07/16/2005 5:35:26 PM PDT by Vor Lady (zeta, eta, theta, iota....use the force!)
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To: Jim Robinson
" You mean, the more they try to take money (free speech) out of politics, the nastier (and more extreme) it gets?"

There is more than enough money now. Each election is just grows and grows.

Actually, Jim, I think that only voters should be able to contribute whatever they want. But no contributions from PACs, Corporations, Labor Unions, foreign countries or other non-voters. Free speech money for citizen voters not for non-citizen artificial entities.

Those elected should be responsible to citizens, not PACs,

55 posted on 07/16/2005 5:36:26 PM PDT by ex-snook (Protectionism is Patriotism in both war and trade.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Sorry to hear that the idea of defending our borders would somehow be offensive to people.

Thanks, Jim -- we need to keep an eye on these yahoos.


56 posted on 07/16/2005 5:37:14 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Durka Durka Durka. Muhammed Jihad Durka.)
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To: EagleUSA
"I would generally disagree in that there is so much difference between the radical left, their agenda versus the true Constitutional conservatives who want to keep America as it had always been since the founders cast it and its precious documents. They are SO DIAMETRIC (hard socialism versus true conservatism) I cannot even conceptually see how they could approach each other..."

Brilliant comment, Eagle! You literally took the words right "off of my fingers!" I was about to type the same comment, but you saved me the trouble!

Someone should tell this author of "Circular Politics" that....."It's the CONSTITUTION, STUPID!"

Thanks for posting this article, Mr. Robinson!

Char :)

57 posted on 07/16/2005 5:37:33 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I propose a co-Clinton team as permanent reps to Pyonyang, w/out possibility of repatriation....)
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To: RedBeaconNY

I've said it before, "Just because you can do something, it doesn't mean you should."


58 posted on 07/16/2005 5:37:55 PM PDT by perfect stranger ("Hell Bent for Election" by Warburg)
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To: kcvl

He is a Democrat and writes from Philadelphia,


Oy, I really want out of this city!


59 posted on 07/16/2005 5:37:56 PM PDT by hipaatwo (When you're in trouble you want all your friends around you...preferably armed!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Maybe I'm wrong but to call Free Republic Extreme is to call the Constitution extreme. Yes we have some very differing ideas and strong opinions but just about everything on this site revolves around the idea of a return Classical Liberalism, thats what we are trying to conserve..IMO. Anyone who says that is extreme must willing to compromise with our Founding principles. Yes some threads become extreme at times because they are largely free discussion among Conservatives and the occasional troll, but that is in large part because we don't compromise our position for the sake the middle? How does that saying go? Half way between right and wrong is still wrong.


60 posted on 07/16/2005 5:38:33 PM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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