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The Real Story Behind Srebrenica
The Globe and Mail ^ | 14 July 2005 | Lewis MacKenzie

Posted on 07/15/2005 9:30:59 AM PDT by Doctor13

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1 posted on 07/15/2005 9:31:00 AM PDT by Doctor13
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2 posted on 07/15/2005 9:37:35 AM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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Notice that even Gen. MacKenzie doesn't deny what many Serbs still do: that Muslim men were taken prisoner and shot en mass. Genocide? No. War crime? No doubt.

I also noticed that he chose to skip the 1992 Serb attacks in the region that pushed so many refugees into Srebrenica in the first place preferring instead to spread the lie that the Serbs were only "going to attack Srebrenica to stop him (Oric) from attacking Serb villages."

Unless MacKenzie can explain why all of Eastern Bosnia was attacked (Zepa was overrun soon after Srebrenica and Gorazde was hammered throughout) then the Serb claim that they were only responding to Oric just doesn't hold up.


3 posted on 07/15/2005 9:40:42 AM PDT by johnnyBbad
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To: Doctor13; Lion in Winter; Destro; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ma bell; joan; vooch; ...
"As the Bosnian Muslim fighters became better equipped and trained, they started to venture outside Srebrenica, burning Serb villages and killing their occupants before quickly withdrawing to the security provided by the UN's safe haven."

And there is the complete reason for the Serbian response. The response was excessive but a response was justified, nonetheless.

Have any of our apologists for the Muhammedan killers ever even bothered to admit that the attacks on the Serb villagers was wrong?

4 posted on 07/15/2005 9:48:38 AM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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"As the Bosnian Muslim fighters became better equipped and trained, they started to venture outside Srebrenica, burning Serb villages and killing their occupants before quickly withdrawing to the security provided by the UN's safe haven. These attacks reached a crescendo in 1994 and carried on into early 1995 after the Canadian infantry company that had been there for a year was replaced by a larger Dutch contingent."

Waging war, Muslim style to avoid casualties.

5 posted on 07/15/2005 9:57:51 AM PDT by DTA
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"As the snow cleared in the spring of 1995, it became obvious to Nasar Oric, the man who led the Bosnian Muslim fighters, that the Bosnian Serb army was going to attack Srebrenica to stop him from attacking Serb villages. So he and a large number of his fighters slipped out of town."

Muslim courage.

6 posted on 07/15/2005 9:59:13 AM PDT by DTA
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A bunch of not-so-ex-commies killing each other...

...so why does anyone give a s*** which not-so-ex-commie wins?


7 posted on 07/15/2005 9:59:54 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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"It's a distasteful point, but it has to be said that, if you're committing genocide, you don't let the women go since they are key to perpetuating the very group you are trying to eliminate. Many of the men and boys were executed and buried in mass graves."

When Muslims kill Serb civilians, it is revenge. When Serbs kill Muslim fighters, it is genocide.

8 posted on 07/15/2005 10:02:40 AM PDT by DTA
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Have any of our apologists for the Muhammedan killers ever even bothered to admit that the attacks on the Serb villagers was wrong? I don't see how anyone can deny that a war crime is wrong.
9 posted on 07/15/2005 10:15:05 AM PDT by johnnyBbad
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As I understand it, by summer 1995 it was pretty much a given that the safe-areas in the east would fall. The muslim government pretty much knew this (thus evacuated their generals) and relied on retaining the towns by involving the UN.

I believe the Serb leadership pretty much knew krajina was gone by then as well.


10 posted on 07/15/2005 10:18:07 AM PDT by johnnyBbad
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didn't all but 2 "safe havens" fall?


11 posted on 07/15/2005 10:20:43 AM PDT by tfecw (Vote Democrat, It's easier than working)
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damn - didn't realize how many times I wrote "pretty much" in that last post :)


12 posted on 07/15/2005 10:21:00 AM PDT by johnnyBbad
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I don't see how anyone can deny that a war crime is wrong.

Our Muhammedan apologists simply ignore that anything happened. Admitting that a war crime provoked the reponse sullies the fiction that the Muhammedans were somehow blameless victims.

13 posted on 07/15/2005 10:22:24 AM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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In the east, Zepa and Srebrenica fell while Gorazde held out.

Tulza and Sarajevo weren't in much danger of being over-run while the Bihac seige was lifted during Croatia's "Operation Storm" in early August 95.


14 posted on 07/15/2005 10:22:36 AM PDT by johnnyBbad
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sorry, I'm new - who's a 'Muhammedan apologist'?


15 posted on 07/15/2005 10:23:35 AM PDT by johnnyBbad
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
...so why does anyone give a s*** which not-so-ex-commie wins?

Because Bill Clinton charged in on the side of the folks who sent us all a big "Thank You!" note on September 11, 2001.

16 posted on 07/15/2005 10:23:50 AM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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...Muslim fighters became better equipped and trained, they started to venture outside Srebrenica, burning Serb villages and killing their occupants before quickly withdrawing to the security provided by the UN's safe haven.

Nutshell.

Repeated in many forms.

17 posted on 07/15/2005 10:23:56 AM PDT by Poincare
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Pay attention, keep reading, and they'll make themselves known to you in very short order.


18 posted on 07/15/2005 10:24:35 AM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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As much as I dislike - no, HATE - ISlamic radicals I don't see how you confuse the Bosnians with, say, radical Arabs.


19 posted on 07/15/2005 10:25:20 AM PDT by johnnyBbad
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The useless UN and the present day UN thiefs. It is past due for the US to get out of the useless UN and let the remainder steal from someone else.


20 posted on 07/15/2005 10:25:34 AM PDT by sandydipper (Less government is best government!)
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