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To: MadIvan
I just told you that Nick Griffin even stood for Parliament.

But now he's facing charges for what he said, among friends. I've read the stories. I know what he's up against. I could be charged in the UK for what I've said right here, and you know it. "Disturbing the peace" does not apply to someone demanding reprisals against an internal enemy that has proven itself to be deadly again and again. No matter how much you dislike what someone is saying, simple speech is not disturbing the peace. That's some twisted vestige of empire, no doubt.

Name one Represenative, Senator, or Governor who agrees with your position.

Are you kidding? Why don't you ask me about the people? The politicians are afraid of their own shadows. The common citizens are starting to talk internment and deportation, especially after 7/7. The next attacks could kill hundreds of thousands, in case you're not thinking this through carefully.

It's called disturbing the peace and incitement to a riot - both are offenses in America and Britain.

Nonsense, there are no federal laws against speaking one's mind about race and religion in this country. In fact, it's constitutionally protected speech, no matter how unpopular it is. You're living in the dusty afterglow of empire over there in the UK and you actually think that people's throats are the property of the state. It's not true.

When the police come and throw you in either prison or the loony bin, we'll have a good laugh about it back here on FR.

I think you're just not ready to face the deadly facts of this situation. You've swung over from being a trendy "goth" who supported the Iraq war (what was the point, if not to win the world war?) and even got angry about the 7/7 attacks -- to someone who can't see that it's a civilizational war we're fighting.

But "Mad" Ivan, I like you. You're funny, and you're loyal, and you're a Brit of some kind apparently. I even think it's good that you came back after some tiff you had with who knows who on FR. Please, keep speaking your mind. When the nuke goes off in one of the other cities in the UK, please come and let us know how you and your family are doing.

25 posted on 07/15/2005 4:53:27 AM PDT by John Filson
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To: John Filson
o matter how much you dislike what someone is saying, simple speech is not disturbing the peace.

If you're inciting a riot, which Nick Griffin has the power to do, it's not like if your Joe Q. Average. Try again.

Are you kidding? Why don't you ask me about the people? The politicians are afraid of their own shadows. The common citizens are starting to talk internment and deportation, especially after 7/7. The next attacks could kill hundreds of thousands, in case you're not thinking this through carefully.

So in other words there are no politicians who agree with your position and thus no one who will execute on it. So the whole mass deportation idea is just a political wet dream on your part. Next.

Nonsense, there are no federal laws against speaking one's mind about race and religion in this country.

Ah ha, no "federal" laws. There are state laws, and secondly, Nick Griffin, again, was not Joe Q. Average - he could actually execute on a riot.

I think you're just not ready to face the deadly facts of this situation. You've swung over from being a trendy "goth" who supported the Iraq war (what was the point, if not to win the world war?) and even got angry about the 7/7 attacks -- to someone who can't see that it's a civilizational war we're fighting.

I haven't changed one bit. You're just some wanker who thinks the BNP is bloody wonderful, in spite of what I've shown you. If I had my way, Winston would have had them killed during World War II - they were traitors then, and traitors now, and traitors deserve the rope - whether they're Nazis or Islamists. From my perspective, you're intellectually fellating people who do not have my country's interests at heart and to no good end.

But "Mad" Ivan, I like you. You're funny, and you're loyal, and you're a Brit of some kind apparently. I even think it's good that you came back after some tiff you had with who knows who on FR. Please, keep speaking your mind. When the nuke goes off in one of the other cities in the UK, please come and let us know how you and your family are doing.

I don't like anyone who supports the BNP, Al Qaeda, the Communist Party, etc. Your support for the BNP puts you in my books with say, George Galloway and Osama. And Nick Griffin.

Ivan

29 posted on 07/15/2005 5:01:03 AM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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