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To: John Filson
The world is coming down around you, but you want to muzzle those who have strong opinions about it?

Are you blind or stupid? I just told you that Nick Griffin even stood for Parliament. There are BNP councillors in Burnley. The organisation is not banned at present.

I think you need to examine your assumptions about freedom of speech. You might want to rethink your firearms laws.

I am not interested in being lectured in law by someone who thinks disturbing the peace is acceptable so long as you're forming an anti-Muslim lynch mob.

And yes, I'm serious about deporting people. The current American president isn't willing to deport illegal Hispanic immigrants let alone Islamists. The American continent is clogged with devout Muslim immigrants and converts.

Name one Represenative, Senator, or Governor who agrees with your position. If you can't name one, then there is no reason to mistake your desire for mass Muslim deportation as a serious policy option. Just because you think something doesn't make it relevant or important.

The camps will come, just maybe not this month. They'll come to the UK. You'll be begging for them before this is over. And you'll no doubt be in violation of the same hate speech laws that make you so proud today.

As pointed out, there are "hate speech" laws already in every country. It's called disturbing the peace and incitement to a riot - both are offenses in America and Britain.

But please do feel free to form an anti-Muslim mob in your home town. When the police come and throw you in either prison or the loony bin, we'll have a good laugh about it back here on FR.

Ivan

23 posted on 07/15/2005 4:43:02 AM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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To: MadIvan
I just told you that Nick Griffin even stood for Parliament.

But now he's facing charges for what he said, among friends. I've read the stories. I know what he's up against. I could be charged in the UK for what I've said right here, and you know it. "Disturbing the peace" does not apply to someone demanding reprisals against an internal enemy that has proven itself to be deadly again and again. No matter how much you dislike what someone is saying, simple speech is not disturbing the peace. That's some twisted vestige of empire, no doubt.

Name one Represenative, Senator, or Governor who agrees with your position.

Are you kidding? Why don't you ask me about the people? The politicians are afraid of their own shadows. The common citizens are starting to talk internment and deportation, especially after 7/7. The next attacks could kill hundreds of thousands, in case you're not thinking this through carefully.

It's called disturbing the peace and incitement to a riot - both are offenses in America and Britain.

Nonsense, there are no federal laws against speaking one's mind about race and religion in this country. In fact, it's constitutionally protected speech, no matter how unpopular it is. You're living in the dusty afterglow of empire over there in the UK and you actually think that people's throats are the property of the state. It's not true.

When the police come and throw you in either prison or the loony bin, we'll have a good laugh about it back here on FR.

I think you're just not ready to face the deadly facts of this situation. You've swung over from being a trendy "goth" who supported the Iraq war (what was the point, if not to win the world war?) and even got angry about the 7/7 attacks -- to someone who can't see that it's a civilizational war we're fighting.

But "Mad" Ivan, I like you. You're funny, and you're loyal, and you're a Brit of some kind apparently. I even think it's good that you came back after some tiff you had with who knows who on FR. Please, keep speaking your mind. When the nuke goes off in one of the other cities in the UK, please come and let us know how you and your family are doing.

25 posted on 07/15/2005 4:53:27 AM PDT by John Filson
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