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Tokyo Governor Sued for Insulting French
Associated Press ^ | 7/13/05

Posted on 07/13/2005 12:40:59 PM PDT by saquin

TOKYO - A group of teachers and translators in Japan on Wednesday sued Tokyo's outspoken nationalist governor for allegedly calling French a "failed international language," a news report said.

Twenty-one people filed the lawsuit at the Tokyo District Court, demanding that Tokyo Gov. Shintaro Ishihara pay a total of 10.5 million yen ($94,600) compensation for insulting the French language in remarks last October, national broadcaster NHK said.

In their suit, the plaintiffs accused Ishihara of saying: "French is a failed international language because it cannot be used to count numbers."

"It's natural for different languages to have different names for numbers and different ways of counting them, so it's unacceptable for him to insult French in this way," Malik Berkane, who heads a French-language school in Tokyo, told reporters at a news conference.

The Tokyo metropolitan government refused to comment, saying it hadn't received word of the lawsuit.

French is the official language in about three dozen countries and territories worldwide and is one of the official working languages for international organizations such as the United Nations. In French, some numbers can be unwieldy to say, such as 90, which translates as "four-twenty-ten."

Japan's counting system can also be tricky. Adopted from Chinese, the Japanese numeric system ignores the western system of classifying large numbers every three digits. Though one thousand is the same, 30,000 would translate as "three-10,000," 4 million would be "400-10,000" and 4 billion would be "40-100 million."

Counting one pencil or one bottle of beer ("ippon") in Japanese differs from counting one sheet of paper ("ichimai") or one book ("issatsu").

Ishihara, one of Japan's most popular politicians, is known for his blunt nationalist talk, criticism of illegal immigrants and unapologetic view of the Japanese wartime military's atrocities in Asia. His remarks often rile Chinese and Korean residents in Japan.


TOPICS: Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: french
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1 posted on 07/13/2005 12:40:59 PM PDT by saquin
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The nation of France is inhabited by cheese eating surrender monkeys and their language is the language of losers.

Come sue me ya f**k sticks!

2 posted on 07/13/2005 12:42:22 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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But the French make it sooooo easy for us to insult them, and I'm a Francophile! They're just suing him because they can't sue the US or Europe or Islamic countries.


4 posted on 07/13/2005 12:43:48 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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Though one thousand is the same, 30,000 would translate as "three-10,000," 4 million would be "400-10,000" and 4 billion would be "40-100 million."

GG Liddy has gone to saying 1,000 million instead of a billion so people get a better idea of just how big a number it is.

Some Americans even say "11 hundred" instead of 1,100.

5 posted on 07/13/2005 12:43:58 PM PDT by weegee (Re: immigration "Those Syrians are coming to Iraq to do the bombings that Iraqis won't do.")
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To: fortunecookie

It is wrong to be French!


6 posted on 07/13/2005 12:44:13 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: saquin
Given their huge variety of counting numbers (inherited, AFAIK, from the Chinese) and the pointlessly unique names they have for the first ten days of the month, the Japanese should not be throwing stones.

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7 posted on 07/13/2005 12:44:40 PM PDT by untenured (http://futureuncertain.blogspot.com)
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To: saquin

It must be very embarrassing to be French.


8 posted on 07/13/2005 12:44:59 PM PDT by Clara Lou (In this order: Read. Post comment.)
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Just ask anyone that ever took French if it was a waste of time. My wife, for instance, took French in high school. Took at least three more years in college.

She has often commented that if she had to do it over she’d study Spanish. French was a complete waste of time.

9 posted on 07/13/2005 12:45:05 PM PDT by Who dat?
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Some Americans even say "11 hundred" instead of 1,100

Whats wrong with saying 11 hundred? Its easier than saying one thousand one hundred.

10 posted on 07/13/2005 12:45:14 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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Say what you will about the French, their language is hardly a failed one; for centuries it was the only language of international diplomacy. A quirky way manner of numeric expression has nothing to do with that.

This guy's as wrong as wrong can be.


11 posted on 07/13/2005 12:45:20 PM PDT by Gefreiter ("Are you drinking 1% because you think you're fat?")
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Bawhahahhahaha...I'm sorry but THIS is so funny! OBTW, when is Blair going to sue Chirac for insulting British cuisine?!!
12 posted on 07/13/2005 12:45:57 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: saquin

To be fair, the Belgians solved this problem.


13 posted on 07/13/2005 12:46:23 PM PDT by AmishDude (Once you go black hat, you never go back.)
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To: Phantom Lord

Nothing's wrong. Just using it to say that the Japanese examples aren't so odd.


14 posted on 07/13/2005 12:47:24 PM PDT by weegee (Re: immigration "Those Syrians are coming to Iraq to do the bombings that Iraqis won't do.")
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To: saquin

Ishihara-san is correct.


15 posted on 07/13/2005 12:47:29 PM PDT by Moleman
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Say what you will about the French, their language is hardly a failed one; for centuries it was the only language of international diplomacy

That is long ago in the past. French has become so unneeded and english so dominant that France has passed laws limiting the legal use of english. Especially when it comes to the internet and computers. They fear the death of their language. And in Quebec, I believe it is illegal to do business in english in any way, shape, or form.

16 posted on 07/13/2005 12:47:38 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Who dat?

There are no regular verbs in French. Not one. Any verb in common usage breaks at least one rule.


17 posted on 07/13/2005 12:48:19 PM PDT by AmishDude (Once you go black hat, you never go back.)
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To: weegee
Nothing's wrong. Just using it to say that the Japanese examples aren't so odd.

I believe the Japanese examples are how the numbers must be said as it is the only way the language allows it. Unlike English, which has multiple options available.

18 posted on 07/13/2005 12:48:40 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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The French will surrender to Japan before this ever goes before a judge............

Les Français sont des singes de capitulation qui mangent du fromage.

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19 posted on 07/13/2005 12:48:55 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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LOL, and this on the eve of Bastille Day, sacre bleu! LOL! (But I agree!)


20 posted on 07/13/2005 12:49:26 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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