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Islam does incubate terrorism
Telegraph ^ | July 12th , 05 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 07/12/2005 2:00:10 PM PDT by F14 Pilot

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1 posted on 07/12/2005 2:00:17 PM PDT by F14 Pilot
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To: Valin; AdmSmith; nuconvert; warsaw44; parisa; YaYa123; GVgirl

Thought you might be interested!


2 posted on 07/12/2005 2:01:10 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: F14 Pilot

Why is it that we have not heard from one Muslim cleric in the USA, not one Muslim organization in the USA, not one Muslim family in the USA denouncing these terrorist acts in London or against our soldiers and the Iraqi people. Until that happens, in my opinion, then Muslims in our country are condoning these acts of violence.

This is a time for good Muslim people to come forth and denounce these acts.

nick


3 posted on 07/12/2005 2:03:44 PM PDT by nikos1121
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To: F14 Pilot

Yes, Mark Steyn is always spot on the money. Thanks for posting this.


4 posted on 07/12/2005 2:04:33 PM PDT by bboop
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To: F14 Pilot
All you need to know about Islam:


5 posted on 07/12/2005 2:05:18 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: F14 Pilot

The poor deluded man.


6 posted on 07/12/2005 2:05:19 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Convert from ECUSA

Ping!


7 posted on 07/12/2005 2:05:33 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: nikos1121

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2005/07/12/worldviews.DTL

http://www.voanews.com/english/2005-07-07-voa63.cfm

US Muslim Groups Condemn London Attacks

By VOA News
07 July 2005

U.S.-based Muslim groups have joined governments and organizations around the world in condemning Thursday's deadly bombings in London.

In a statement, the Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations condemned the attacks as "barbaric crimes," which it said "can never be justified or excused."

The group has said in the past that those who commit acts of terror in the name of Islam are betraying that religion's values.

In a separate statement, the Muslim Public Affairs Council extended condolences to the families of the victims and to the British people. It called the bombings an "attack against humanity."


8 posted on 07/12/2005 2:05:52 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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'There are no Muslim terrorists. There are terrorists," Father Paul Hawkins of St Pancras parish church told his congregation on Sunday. "The people who carried out these attacks are victims of a false religion, be it false Christianity or false Islam."

Criky. I am sure getting tired of bozos letting Islam off the hook by including Christianity in their condemnations. An extremist Christian might give away all their possessions and live their life in servant paradigm...an extremist muslim believes in killing any non-muslim in an effort to bring the world under subjugation to Islam. The terrors WERE muslim terrorists even if this guy doesn't have the moral courage to say so.

9 posted on 07/12/2005 2:06:53 PM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: F14 Pilot

islam IS HATE!


10 posted on 07/12/2005 2:09:58 PM PDT by porkchops 4 mahound (islam IS the ENEMY of ALL Non-islamic peoples.)
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To: F14 Pilot

Where have these people been for the past three years? Frankly, I'm not impressed. I don't see letters to the editor colums from them or any organized statements that are reported in the press. I don't see demostrations like we saw from the young Lebanonese in major cities. There in this country reaping the benefits of our system yet not lifting a finger to help their people back home. Am I cynical? Yes. Those soldiers over there are like our family. Any person in this country should feel the same way.

Like I said above. I'm not impressed by these token gestures after London.

nick


12 posted on 07/12/2005 2:16:10 PM PDT by nikos1121
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To: F14 Pilot

Even Steyn hopes against all hope that there are "moderate Muslims". But where? And what else can we do except to continue to fool ourselves? Ship them all out to where they came from, when there are today thousands of mosques built in formerly Christian lands, allowed there by the elites running the secularist states who have looked at all religion as a benign 'opium of the masses'. When many (of the muzzlelimb fanatics) are citizens, unassimilated, of the Western countries? It'll take a revolution of the masses against the elites in their safe from terror academic, political and entertainment world cocoons. Rodeo Drive and the Presidents' alma matter campuses are still safe, aren't they? Who'd ever think of bombing country clubs or the Hamptons?


13 posted on 07/12/2005 2:16:38 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: F14 Pilot

Daniel Pipes usefully estimates the Radical Islamicist population at 10-15% of Muslims.

While that's a relatively small minority, it is still more than ten million people who want to kill you or die trying.


14 posted on 07/12/2005 2:22:32 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie
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To: nikos1121
>"This is a time for good Muslim people to come forth and denounce these acts. "

Good moooslimes tell no tales!!!!
The only good mooslime is a ????

Kill A Commie For Mommie
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15 posted on 07/12/2005 2:23:00 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("If it's brown, drink it down. If it's black send it back." Homer's guide to drinking in Springfield)
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Well, we need to encourage the rest of the Muslim community to fight them!


16 posted on 07/12/2005 2:24:16 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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"But the coaxing is what counts - wooing moderate Muslims into reclaiming their religion. We can take steps to prevent Islamic terrorists killing us, most of the time. But Islamic terrorists will only stop trying to kill us when their culture reviles them rather than celebrates them."

OTOH, we are about one WMD away from the public requiring governments to:

"Kill them all and let Allah sort them out."

A nuke in Paris, Tel Aviv, Washington, or London would require the immediate overthrow / decimation of Iran, Syria and Saudi Arabia. Possibly Pakistan if provenance were suggestive.

17 posted on 07/12/2005 2:26:15 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie
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"Well, we need to encourage the rest of the Muslim community to fight them!"

We have encouraged them for four years, and virtually nothing has happened.

Where are the mass arrests of the thousand of Islamofascists in Britain? Oh, that's right, they never happen because "moderate muslims" don't turn in the radicals. Wishful thinking and another dozen "Pretty Please" requests don't seem promising.

I recommend spies, bugs, dirty police work and armies as necessary.

18 posted on 07/12/2005 2:30:12 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie
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To: nikos1121

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This is a time for good Muslim people to come forth and denounce these acts.
<<

But they did.

Both of them.


19 posted on 07/12/2005 2:31:22 PM PDT by noblejones
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To: F14 Pilot
Why would ANYONE believe ANYTHING a MUSLIM has to say. It is from their OWN teachings that lying to further the jihad is perfectly acceptable. They are even allowed to make TREATIES and BREAK them when they are ready to attack.

HELLO.... IS ANYONE AWAKE OUT THERE.

20 posted on 07/12/2005 2:31:31 PM PDT by marty60
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