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Cooper Email Identifies Rove as "A" Source
WSJ ^ | 7/10/05 | JOE HAGAN

Posted on 07/11/2005 5:13:46 AM PDT by harpu

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That said, the disclosure that Mr. Bush's top political strategist discussed the CIA employment of Mr. Wilson's wife amounts to a political embarrassment for Mr. Rove and the White House. A presidential spokesman had previously given what appeared to be an unequivocal public assurance that Mr. Rove hadn't been involved in the disclosure of Ms. Plame as a CIA operative. Discovery that earlier denials may have been carefully parsed would represent another blow to the administration's credibility, compounding damage from the underlying issue that initially brought Mr. Wilson into the spotlight.

Mr. Rove's attorney, Robert Luskin, last week denied that Mr. Rove had contacted Mr. Cooper last Wednesday, and said that when Mr. Rove spoke to Mr. Cooper two years ago, "Karl didn't disclose Valerie Plame's identification to anyone. That's not a technical statement. That's as practical and direct as I can make it." He also told The Wall Street Journal that Mr. Rove had never asked any reporter to treat him as a confidential source in the matter, "so if Matt Cooper is going to jail to protect a source, it's not Karl he's protecting."

Yesterday, Mr. Luskin explained that Mr. Rove, like other White House officials, had signed a document provided by Mr. Fitzgerald in December 2003, allowing reporters to testify about conversations with him. On Wednesday, before Mr. Cooper was headed to court and a possible jail term, his attorney, Richard Sauber, called Mr. Luskin and asked for reassurance that the earlier waiver encompassed Mr. Rove's discussions with Mr. Cooper. If so, Mr. Sauber sought more express consent. Mr. Luskin checked with Mr. Fitzgerald as to whether more specific consent was necessary, and then gave that consent to Mr. Cooper, who said last week that he received the permission in "somewhat dramatic fashion."

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cialeak; cooper; frame; plame; rove
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1 posted on 07/11/2005 5:13:46 AM PDT by harpu
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To: harpu

A source of what, though? He didn't tell him that she was a covert agent.


2 posted on 07/11/2005 5:14:31 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: harpu

they're really trying hard, aren't they!


3 posted on 07/11/2005 5:17:06 AM PDT by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: Brilliant

Exactly!


4 posted on 07/11/2005 5:17:28 AM PDT by harpu
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To: Brilliant

I'd guess it was an "OLD" personal friend of Wilson....in the CIA. If Wilson disclosed his "job" to Valerie on their third date, he's just not a "I can keep a secret" person.


5 posted on 07/11/2005 5:18:28 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: harpu

One of these days the administration might wake up to the fact that you cannot trust any reporters.


6 posted on 07/11/2005 5:18:42 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: Brilliant

"covert agent."

are you kidding me?

As far as the agency goes that chick was the least "covert" officer walking the streets (and that is saying alot considering how overt the agency was during those years).

Don't even get me started on this.


7 posted on 07/11/2005 5:19:34 AM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: Brilliant
He didn't tell him that she was a covert agent.

Probably because she was not a covert agent.

This Grand Jury is going to go through the process, and nothing is going to come of it. It is just entertainment for the Silly Season. In October, the whole thing will go away and be forgotten by everyone except for the folks who keep a litany of injustices dating back to where Bush stole the election in Florida 2000.

8 posted on 07/11/2005 5:21:23 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES!!)
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To: gridlock

No. Because he did not know she had been a covert agent.


9 posted on 07/11/2005 5:26:47 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Piquaboy
One of these days the administration might wake up to the fact that you cannot trust any reporters.

What are you talking about, they have! This reporting makes the MSM look like absolute idiots and partisan hacks going after Rove for disclosing NOTHING!

First of all, have you checked the source to see if this report is even true? You have to do that with the MSM ya know! After all the BS they print and report (DR, Newsweek, and all the others) you have no choice but verify yourself, they are never to be trusted!

In fact I call for those in the know on FR to hold a seminar on how to check the authenticity of information in news reports...It should now be SOP around here.

10 posted on 07/11/2005 5:28:35 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: gridlock
I think you're right, gridlock. There just doesn't seem to be a whole lot there.

From this morning's St. Louis Post-Dispatch:

(link) http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/nation/story/46C3B3CAC347E0168625703B000DD5AE?OpenDocument&highlight=2%2C%22rove%22

"Cooper, according to an internal Time e-mail obtained by Newsweek magazine, spoke with Rove before Novak's column was published. In the conversation, Rove gave Cooper a "big warning" that Wilson's claims might not be entirely accurate and that it wasn't the director of the CIA or the vice president who sent Wilson on his trip. Rove apparently told Cooper that it was "Wilson's wife, who apparently works at the agency on WMD (weapons of mass destruction) issues who authorized the trip," according to a story in Newsweek's July 18 issue.

"Rove's conversation with Cooper could be significant because it indicates a White House official was discussing Plame before her being publicly named and could lead to evidence of how Novak learned her name.

"Although the information is revelatory, it still is unknown whether Rove is a focus of the investigation. Rove's lawyer, Robert Luskin, has said that Special Prosecutor Patrick J. Fitzgerald has told him that Rove is not a target of the inquiry. Luskin said Sunday that Rove didn't know Plame's name and was not actively trying to push the information into the public realm.

"Instead, Luskin said, Rove discussed the matter - under the cloak of secrecy - with Cooper at the tail end of a conversation about a different issue.

"Rove did not mention her name to Cooper," Luskin said."
11 posted on 07/11/2005 5:28:44 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: harpu

Sorry, when a dizzy blond models herself on the cover of Vanity Fare and then the Democrats complain about her "identity" being revealed after she recommends her dizzier husband to go on a "mission" to Nigeria to discover the orgins of the yellow cake while drinking tea, (OMG! He didn't even know that the yellow cake was not the eating kind) I really care. What is worse, I lost all respect for the CIA. If sending Mr. Dizzy to Nigeria to come to the bottom of the missing yellow cake is the best they can do, that scares the heck out of me. Sheesh. And now the Dummcrats have to blast this CIA failure over and over again. Honestly!


12 posted on 07/11/2005 5:29:53 AM PDT by Chgogal (Egyptian Jihadist, "Psssst....we're running out of virgins. Spread the word.")
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To: harpu

Why is this even a story? This is less of a scandal than Whitewater.


13 posted on 07/11/2005 5:30:28 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: harpu
The Dims are straining at gnats and will deliver an amoeba.

Leni

14 posted on 07/11/2005 5:33:46 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Always Right
Why is this even a story? This is less of a scandal than Whitewater.

Because the Dims have no other agenda, then to bring down the current administration to their level. They are constantly trying to nick the President with anything they can, truth be damned, because it has the possibility of doing what they cannot: Defeat the President.

15 posted on 07/11/2005 5:36:09 AM PDT by golfboy (character is doing what is right, when no one is looking)
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To: Always Right
Why is this even a story? This is less of a scandal than Whitewater.

Ah, but the ID of the real source and why he/she did what was done would be...

Wouldn't it, Ms. Miller?

17 posted on 07/11/2005 5:36:31 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Chgogal
I believe Wilson has "financial" interests in Nigeria. Was it just a "paid" business trip? I think so.

The problem is that Valerie WAS INVOLVED in making the trip happen. In all reality, this is the connection that should not have been able to be made.

How about this....someone at the CIA, a Republican, was supposed to go to Nigeria. For whatever reason, Valerie INTERFERRED and Wilson wound up going and issuing a verbal report. As far as I remember, he did not make a written report and anything wriiten only appeared in our "prejudiced" media.

Why was there no written official report?

18 posted on 07/11/2005 5:38:28 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Always Right

Well......I've been mostly quiet on this but while i think it's a tempest in a teapot, the media might not let this go.

Parsing whether Rove knew or did not know what Plame was (assuming she even was covert) might not be a defence. If the media frames the whole thing as "Rove outed CIA agent", it doesn't really matter if she was covert or not does it.

Rove has had the media by the b*lls for a long time and this looks alot like payback. If the public perception turns again him (Rove) then he most likely will resign. Is a Rove resignation a big deal at this point? (not really).

Oh well just my POV


19 posted on 07/11/2005 5:39:40 AM PDT by JNL
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To: Sacajaweau

Agreed. I was aware all the details you mentioned except the Republican spin. The CIA lost credibility by sending a moron like Mr. Dizzy. This whole caper is ludicrous and if I were the CIA I would put it to bed ASAP.


20 posted on 07/11/2005 5:43:04 AM PDT by Chgogal (Egyptian Jihadist, "Psssst....we're running out of virgins. Spread the word.")
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