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MINUTEMEN - Border watchers coming to city - target HPD's hands-off policy
Houston Chronicle ^ | July 8, 2005 | EDWARD HEGSTROM

Posted on 07/08/2005 12:16:37 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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Earlier Story: [July 6, 2005] No photos of immigrants, chief tells officers***The Houston Police Department has instructed officers not to photograph illegal immigrants seeking day jobs, after an incident last month prompted an outcry from an immigrant rights group.

Houston police Capt. Juan Trevino made the pledge to 400 people who attended a meeting Tuesday night organized by The Metropolitan Organization, an interfaith grass-roots political action group.

Trevino said that "an isolated handful of officers" took immigrants' photographs after a business owner on North Shepherd recently complained that they "were walking on private property."

Addressing the TMO gathering in Spanish and English, Trevino said that the Houston police department will work with the organization to encourage immigrant workers to seek work at the east side day labor center.

"We have initiated a policy where, at this time, we are instructing all officers that they cannot photograph any of the day laborers that are currently out in the field," Trevino said.

After the meeting at Immaculate Conception Catholic Church, Trevino said the photographs of immigrants involved "an isolated handful of officers — it was maybe only one or two."

"But currently the department has given directions down through the captains to instruct all officers to cease that practice until our legal services investigation ... until that matter has been clarified," Trevino said. ..........................***

1 posted on 07/08/2005 12:16:38 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Eaker; TheMom; humblegunner; stevie_d_64; Squantos; SwinneySwitch

Ping. . .


2 posted on 07/08/2005 12:21:37 AM PDT by Flyer ( TexasBorderWatch.com)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Flyer
Crosslinked:

For "Thunder on the Border," click this picture:


3 posted on 07/08/2005 12:39:12 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Well I live in Houston in Queenie Jackass Lee's Congressional district. and as far as Im concerned the Minutemen are more than welcome here. In fact I'll probably wind up helping them this fall or at least buy lunch for a few of them. Given the fact that fully a third of all Federal prisoners are illegals, I would say that 'public safety'as defined by Mayor White clearly includes keeping an eye on illegals


4 posted on 07/08/2005 12:42:10 AM PDT by Armigerous ( Non permitte illegitimi te carborundum- "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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"I just don't see how it could work in Houston," said Wanda Schultz, a West University Place resident who participated in patrols in Arizona last April. "How would anybody know who is illegal or legal?"
Here's a hint: they'll be standing at the intersection of Bellaire and Hillcroft waiting for a contractor to offer them an under-the-table job.

Hint #2: If you approach them and ask them their name and they respond, "¿Que?" you've got your hombre.

This feigned ignorance on the part of the illegal apologists is quite ridiculous.

5 posted on 07/08/2005 12:44:40 AM PDT by jayhorn (when i hit the drum, you shake the booty.)
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"These people who hunt immigrants are only thinking of themselves," added Maria del Carmen Yupe, a leader of The Metropolitan Organization. "They don't think of the suffering of these immigrants who stand on the corner hoping to work for something to eat."

Leave it to the idgets who work for the lib groups to drag out the 'suffering' line. What about the suffering of poor taxpayers who have to pick up the tab for these poor "suffering" illegals' free medical care in the Houston hospitals? Or the poor suffering taxpayers who have to pay for the illegals' kid at school through free lunch and extra teachers? Or the poor suffering taxpayers who pay higher insurance premiums because illegals don't have any?


6 posted on 07/08/2005 12:54:15 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile ("Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist." -- John Adams. "F that." -- SCOTUS, in Kelo.)
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To: backhoe

Bump!


7 posted on 07/08/2005 12:54:44 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Houston Police Department policy forbids officers from asking about immigration status in most cases.

But if an American Citizen gets pulled over for a minor traffic violation one of the first things the cop (read dougnut hunter on wheels drawing a public funded salary) asks is- "are there any guns or drugs in the car?"

8 posted on 07/08/2005 12:54:47 AM PDT by ChefKeith (If Diplomacy worked, then we would be sitting here talking.)
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.......asks is- "are there any guns or drugs in the car?"

So?

9 posted on 07/08/2005 12:56:54 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Veteran won't face charges in ID theft

***AUSTIN - Identity theft charges have been dropped against an undocumented Mexican immigrant who bought a stolen Social Security card for $2,000 then joined the Air Force and served in the Iraq war.

The charges against Liliana Plata, 25, were dropped last month because she had been discharged from the Air Force and didn't use the stolen information to defraud anyone, Travis County Assistant District Attorney Claire Dawson-Brown said.

"She took a shortcut she shouldn't have taken, but it was an intent that served a value for all of us," Dawson-Brown said. "She wanted to go and fight for her country, and she was a good soldier."

Plata's attorney, Samuel Bassett, called the decision appropriate. "To take it out of the criminal justice system is appropriate under these circumstances," he said. "She is a decorated veteran in the military."

In an interview last year, Plata told the Austin American-Statesman that she and her mother left Mexico City and illegally entered the United States when she was 10.

Plata grew up in California and said she bought a Social Security card for $2,000 on the black market in Los Angeles after recruiters told her she needed one to join the military.

Using the identity of Cristina Alaniz, Plata joined the Air Force and served as an airman with the 822nd Security Forces Squadron in 2003.

Alaniz, of Austin, realized her identity had been stolen after noticing in a credit check that someone from Moody Air Force Base in Georgia had been using her Social Security number. She also discovered $51,000 in outstanding charges, according to court documents.

Alaniz contacted Air Force officials, who launched an investigation but declined to prosecute Plata because she had been a model airwoman.

In April 2004, Travis County authorities charged her with fraudulent use or possession of identifying information, punishable by up to two years in prison. But Dawson-Brown said prosecutors eventually determined that someone else besides Plata had run up the charges using Alaniz's identity.

She said Plata has since paid Alaniz $2,500 for the time and money spent clearing her credit. Alaniz did not object to the charges being dropped, Dawson-Brown said.

Bassett did not have details on the nature of Plata's discharge, but said she is living in Pennsylvania and "has moved on with her life."

Plata's immigration status was not clear.***

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/metropolitan/3257545


10 posted on 07/08/2005 1:01:25 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
So

What I'm saying is why don't the cops ask about the legality of somebody being in the U.S.?

The "war on drugs" is a failed attempt to keep funding the politicians that are involved in smuggling them into the U.S. and to keep us under the PD's (Presidential Directives) that have been keeping us just shy of Martial Law for the last 70 or so years.

What don't you understand about the 2A?

11 posted on 07/08/2005 1:03:37 AM PDT by ChefKeith (If Diplomacy worked, then we would be sitting here talking.)
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To: ChefKeith

Nice talking with you.


15 posted on 07/08/2005 1:15:16 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: ChefKeith

How old are you?

Thirteen?


17 posted on 07/08/2005 1:29:27 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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You've been nipping on pant-legs tonight.</p>


18 posted on 07/08/2005 1:32:58 AM PDT by endthematrix ("an ominous vacancy" fills this space)
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you just continue the insults to a real question.

No, I am not "13"

I just have a real outlook on life these days and you are in the Twilight Zone.

You still have not answered my question about the 2A.

Do you even know what I am talking about?

BTW, how dare you accuse me of doing drugs and/or condoning the importation and transport of them when you know nothing about me.
19 posted on 07/08/2005 3:41:06 AM PDT by ChefKeith (If Diplomacy worked, then we would be sitting here talking.)
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To: NormsRevenge; ChefKeith; Cincinatus' Wife

Norm is that you?

No wait, I forgot you are not a "mod"...


20 posted on 07/08/2005 3:45:22 AM PDT by ChefKeith (If Diplomacy worked, then we would be sitting here talking.)
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