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Boat sale by 'Duke' made him $400,000 (Time to Resign)
San Diego Union Tribune ^ | 7/05/2005 | Jerry Kammer and Marcus Stern

Posted on 07/05/2005 10:10:41 AM PDT by Jimbaugh

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To: jaydubya2
That's a beauty. Hey, check this one out:


"21 Seconds to Splash 5" by Roy Grinnell. August 28, 1972. Captain Steve Ritchie is about to score his fifth aerial victory, making him the first, and only Air Force Ace of the Vietnam War.

One of these days I'm going to build 3 Vietnam F-4s in 1/48: Ritchie's, Cunningham's and the "Chico the Gunfighter" gunship bird. Chico not only had the internal gatling, but also carried gun pods on the pylons and Rockeye cluster bombs. Nasty! Maybe four Phantoms, I should have a Marine in there, too.

41 posted on 07/05/2005 12:40:20 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Proud to be 100% heteronormative.)
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To: dpwiener

Sonny Callahan would never in any way be linked to anything corrupt.

That's just a fact. The fact that the boat was bought from Callahan proves Cunningham's innocence, because Callahan is a standup guy, someone all Americans can be proud of. Definitely in the league of Jeremiah Denton and Jack Edwards.


42 posted on 07/05/2005 12:43:59 PM PDT by AzaleaCity5691 (The enemy lies in the heart of Gadsden)
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To: Young Scholar
I can hardly even see anything that is ethically questionable here.

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Turn on the light and look again.

43 posted on 07/05/2005 12:51:48 PM PDT by wtc911 (Rocky Sullivan died a coward.)
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To: Jimbaugh

quid pro quo the crooks gotta go...

How come this does not apply equally to crooked presidents...
and other democrats?


44 posted on 07/05/2005 1:11:10 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: kempo
Sorry, you don't know what your talking about. Its always amazed me how quick our people are to slam dunk the republicans without any evidence. Some here have nothing on the liberal democrats who do their best to destroy republicans on lies and innuendos.


Sorry, but you didn't lift a finger to correct what I wrote, which still remains unrefuted. Let me know if the "boat" was actually a piece of real estate. He appears corrupt, but might not be. I am open to either, and you are not.

What exactly in the article (or my post) are you calling a "lie"?

Wouldn't it be better to have principles and standards, and to apply them to people of all parties, instead of your mindless adulation of anyone who claims to be a Republican?
45 posted on 07/05/2005 1:43:26 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed
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To: sauropod
If Duke could have gotten double the $$ he got, he may be stupid, not dishonest.


If you believe the crook he sold it to.

If you believe that boats triple in value in a few years.

I'd rather wait for the evidence before seeing him ousted. But the evidence seems to be pushing that way.
46 posted on 07/05/2005 1:45:58 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed
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To: Beelzebubba

If boats don't triple in value in a few years, then why the high valuation? Housing prices are certainly trending this way (much to my dismay).

I agree that if the evidence points to corruption, he should be ousted.


47 posted on 07/05/2005 1:50:04 PM PDT by sauropod (Polite political action is about as useful as a miniskirt in a convent -- Claire Wolfe)
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To: Beelzebubba

He can give me the boat ....I need something here in New Mexico to keep me busy


48 posted on 07/05/2005 1:54:31 PM PDT by woofie (An invisible man marries an invisible woman. The kids were nothing to look at)
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To: sauropod
If boats don't triple in value in a few years, then why the high valuation? Housing prices are certainly trending this way


The only evidence of the high valuation is the crook's word.

Housing is about real estate prices. They can always build more boats, and move them around. Moorage fees, and slips for houseboats may appreciate with the housing market, but why would one pay triple the price for a used boat, when the new ones are being built for about the same cost as ever?
49 posted on 07/05/2005 1:55:00 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed
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To: Boondock_Saint
Hmmmm! Maybe, but I happen to think fame reveals rather than hides
50 posted on 07/05/2005 1:58:52 PM PDT by Bar-Face
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To: Mr. Silverback

Darn-it. I hate when I am wrong. Shepard was the first in space. Gleen was the first American to ORBIT.
Darn Darn Darn Damn now I have to flail myself abour the face and shoulders. flail! flail! flail! flail!


51 posted on 07/05/2005 2:01:51 PM PDT by Bar-Face
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To: Beelzebubba

In order for Cunningham to be corrupt, then it means that the guy who sold him the boat would have to be corrupt, and I know for a fact this is not possible. Cunningham is being railroaded by a media that clearly doesn't like his policy objectives.


52 posted on 07/05/2005 2:02:11 PM PDT by AzaleaCity5691 (The enemy lies in the heart of Gadsden)
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To: AzaleaCity5691

In order for Cunningham to be corrupt, then it means that the guy who sold him the boat would have to be corrupt.



Not at all. He could buy at a fair market price, and sell in an inflated "bribe" transaction.


53 posted on 07/05/2005 2:08:08 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed
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To: Beelzebubba

Just because someone sells at an inflated price doesn't mean it's a bribe. If you are a smart businessman, you sell high (by the same token, buy low when you can). It doesn't matter if the price is above market value, if your customer is willing to pay it, then charge them the higher price.

I don't know if anyone actually pays the sticker (not including taxes) price for a car, but if the car salesman actually told you what they expected, you'd try to bid him down, erego, they inflate the prices.


54 posted on 07/05/2005 2:11:58 PM PDT by AzaleaCity5691 (The enemy lies in the heart of Gadsden)
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To: Beelzebubba

Also, about $200,000.

Cunningham bought that boat from Sonny Callahan, who lives in Mobile. Mobile is one of the cheapest cities in the country, it's our one good point. What would cost you 2 million in NYC, you can get for 500 grand down here. Paying 200,000 for that kind of boat is perfectly reasonable if the owner is from well, a cheap place. It becomes less reasonable if you're in a high COL place like California.


55 posted on 07/05/2005 2:14:29 PM PDT by AzaleaCity5691 (The enemy lies in the heart of Gadsden)
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To: malia

I bought a boat in 2005 and I will look for a buyer that will pay more than I did when I sell it. Boats depreciate.
There is something wrong with the way Rep. Cunningham is doing business. Maybe he ought to call Bobby Torricelli and find out how to take a Rolex, Mercedes, custom suits and antiques and still stay clear of any ethics problems


56 posted on 07/05/2005 2:18:35 PM PDT by oldironsides
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To: Beelzebubba
Ha, it ain't just the boat that went up in price, its the slip its parked in. Yes it would be considered a great piece of property. I am open to the fact that he could be guilty or not guilty but you sir sound like you are slobbering to find him guilty. That "FACT" remains, you have proven nothing and there are no "FACTS" in your article to prove any wrong doing.
57 posted on 07/05/2005 2:19:01 PM PDT by kempo
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To: Jimbaugh

The Duke won't be running for re-election. He's probably headed to jail.


58 posted on 07/05/2005 2:25:39 PM PDT by Torie (Constrain rogue state courts; repeal your state constitution)
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To: Jimbaugh
If you really watch your pennies, one can still afford on a Congressperson's salary to buy a home, even in Califoria. How do I know that? Because Cunningham was able to. Here's his pad:


59 posted on 07/05/2005 2:31:58 PM PDT by Torie (Constrain rogue state courts; repeal your state constitution)
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To: ko_kyi

Yes people, do not forget the slips. Here in Hawaii people buy boats they don't even want just to get the slip. They can replace the boat later. Often the slips are worth more than the boat itself.


60 posted on 07/05/2005 2:32:35 PM PDT by fish hawk (I am only one, but I am not the only one.)
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