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To: hedgetrimmer
Someone somewhere is smoking crack! The US should be erecting a 15 ft electric fence around its perimeter - not expanding into these vagabond countries. Crazy!
5 posted on 06/28/2005 8:19:02 PM PDT by deadrock
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To: DEADROCK
Comments by David Chertoff:

Second, we want to encourage the development of a unified trusted traveler approach to security. We now have NEXUS, we have SENTRY, we have FAST. All of these are ways in which people can enroll in a program that will allow them to move rapidly and conveniently between and among our countries and inside of North America and outside of North America with a single set of documents that will be a common standard for making sure that the people can be trusted.

http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/display?content=4558

Eliminate US passports and replace them with "integrated, common standard" documents? What does that mean?
7 posted on 06/28/2005 8:24:15 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: DEADROCK

SEALING THE BORDER HAS BEEN PROVEN IMPOSSIBLE

We tried to seal 66 miles of the border in 1994 in “Operation Gate Keeper” designed by the military. It incorporated double and triple fences (some concrete and steel), guard towers, flood lights infrared cameras, ground sensors, patrol roads, horse patrols, ATV patrols, 16 helicopters, fixed wing aircraft, unmanned aerial vehicles, trucks, and a ratio of 32 guards per mile.

If it was successful the plan was to extend it from San Diego to El Paso. It wasn’t successful at all. See Inspector General’s Report: "experienced agents were estimating it was only 5-10 percent effective"

About two hundred thousand are caught each year trying to cross, and another estimated 30 to 40 thousand make it across undetected. They dig under, climb over and break through the fences.

That’s an average of 454 to 606 per mile per year. Extrapolated just to the 2000 mile Mexican border that would be about 1.2 million border jumpers per year. And we would still have the ones who enter from Canada or by air and water or legally on temporary visas and don’t return.

20 posted on 06/28/2005 8:39:36 PM PDT by bayourod (Unless we get 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2008, President Hillary will take all your guns away.)
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To: DEADROCK
Someone somewhere is smoking crack! The US should be erecting a 15 ft electric fence around its perimeter - not expanding into these vagabond countries. Crazy!

I'd toss in the Berlin Wall and some East German guards to teach our border patrol a few things.
27 posted on 06/28/2005 9:16:40 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage in '08! - DeCAFTA-nate CAFTA!)
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