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Kennedy's imaginery quagmire
Liberty Call US ^ | June 27, 2005 | Liberty

Posted on 06/27/2005 11:48:14 AM PDT by Gunner9mm

Kennedy's imaginery quagmire

June 27, 2005

On a scale of 1 to 10, my respect for Senator Ted Kennedy is about a minus 25. That was before I saw his vicious attack on Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld that was filled with lies and distortions that only a moveon.org radical left-wing idiot could appreciate.

Kennedy's tirade made me wonder where he gets his information. His characterization of the war in Iraq, especially his term "intractable quagmire" bears no resemblance to reality. I think all Kennedy did was dust off an old Viet Nam era anti-war diatribe, change Viet Nam to Iraq, and modify it a little to make it a hit piece against Rumsfeld specifically, and the military in general.

Here's a bit of what Kennedy said, "Secretary Rumsfeld, you know we are in serious trouble in Iraq. This war has been consistently and grossly mismanaged. And we are now in a seemingly intractable quagmire. Our troops are dying, and there really is no end in sight."

Compare that to what Karl Zinmeister, editor of The American Enterprise said, after he returned from his third trip to Iraq:

"I spent lots of time walking both neighborhoods this spring—something that would not have been possible a year earlier, when both were active war zones, where tanks poured shells into buildings on a regular basis. Today, the primary work of our soldiers in each area is rebuilding sewers, paving roads, getting buildings repaired and secured, supplying schools and hospitals, getting trash picked up, managing traffic, and encouraging honest local governance.

What the establishment media covering Iraq have utterly failed to make clear today is this central reality: With the exception of periodic flare-ups in isolated corners, our struggle in Iraq as warfare is over. Egregious acts of terror will continue—in Iraq as in many other parts of the world. But there is now no chance whatever of the U.S. losing this critical guerilla war.

Contrary to the impression given by most newspaper headlines, the United States has won the day in Iraq. In 2004, our military fought fierce battles in Najaf, Fallujah, and Sadr City. Many thousands of terrorists were killed, with comparatively little collateral damage. As examples of the very hardest sorts of urban combat, these will go down in history as smashing U.S. victories.

And our successes at urban combat (which, scandalously, are mostly untold stories in the U.S.) made it crystal clear to both the terrorists and the millions of moderate Iraqis that the insurgents simply cannot win against today’s U.S. Army and Marines. That’s why everyday citizens have surged into politics instead.

The terrorist struggle has hardly ended. Even a very small number of vicious men operating in secret will find opportunities to blow up outdoor markets and public buildings, assassinate prominent political figures, and knock down office towers. But public opinion is not on the insurgents’ side, and the battle of Iraq is no longer one of war fighting—but of policing and politics."

So who are we to believe? Zinmeister, an editor and reporter who has been embedded with the troops in Iraq three times? Zinmeister, who has written two books on his earlier experiences with coalition troops, who has seen the invasion and the war close up and personal?

Or Kennedy, who limits himself to reports in the Boston Globe and New York Times? Kennedy, who, through his lies and insults, denigrates the efforts of the Secretary of Defense and the Joint Chiefs when they tell him the truth? Kennedy, who cares more about pandering to the most radical of left-wing nutcases than he does for the fate of American warfighters or the war on terror?

The only intractable quagmire I see here is the mudhole that Kennedy and the vast majority of the Democrats insist on operating from.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: iraq; kennedy; quagmire; rumsfeld; tedkennedy; waronterror
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1 posted on 06/27/2005 11:48:15 AM PDT by Gunner9mm
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To: Gunner9mm

Of course it is a quagmire if:

1. You don't want to see the US as a sole super power.

2. You don't want to see the US defend itself and succeed in Iraq.

3. You don't want to see ANYTHHING GOOD happen under a GOP president.

4. The only US military action you have supported in your life is when the US was on the same side as Joe Stalin and the USSR.


2 posted on 06/27/2005 11:50:30 AM PDT by JLS
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To: Gunner9mm

QUAGMIRE: '69 Oldmobile stuck in 6 feet of water near bridge..........


3 posted on 06/27/2005 11:51:18 AM PDT by Red Badger (The Army makes the world safe for democracy. The Marines make the world safe for the Army.....)
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To: JLS
You don't want to see ANYTHING GOOD happen under a GOP president.

Yep!

4 posted on 06/27/2005 11:54:38 AM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: Red Badger

Just ONCE, I would love to hear someone tell this fatso to sit down and shut up, he has NO business being in the Senate, should have been tossed out in 69.


5 posted on 06/27/2005 11:56:20 AM PDT by Bossy Gillis
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To: Red Badger

Can you even imagine fat teddy walking the neighborhood. It would be a nice change for him to actually KNOW what he's talking about. Such slime! It must make him feel crappy tho, knowing he is the only kennedy brother not worth assassinating!


6 posted on 06/27/2005 11:56:45 AM PDT by jackv
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To: Gunner9mm

Kennedy is merely voicing what he wishes to happen:A quaqmire with the U.S. losing the war so he and his pack of RATS can gain power.


7 posted on 06/27/2005 11:57:12 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Conservatism: doing what is right instead of what is easy)
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8 posted on 06/27/2005 11:57:31 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: Gunner9mm

Fat Teddy Kennedy, the son of a rum runner, isn't intelligent enough to come up with anything, good or bad, without the assistance of some hireling that knows how to read and write.


9 posted on 06/27/2005 11:59:09 AM PDT by hgro (ews)
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To: NormsRevenge

To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men. A verse from the Republican playbook, see who can hide under a rock better.


10 posted on 06/27/2005 12:00:45 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Gunner9mm

As usual, the Dems' only peek at reality is when they happen to come across it while looking up a word in the dictionary.


11 posted on 06/27/2005 12:01:54 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - there are countless observable clues that God exists)
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To: Bossy Gillis; jackv

He didn't put much emphasis into his bloviating. No fire anymore. He knows nobody is giving a damn what he says. I suspect it was all for the moveon.org crowd's benefit for future commercials. He had no emotion in what he said...........


12 posted on 06/27/2005 12:02:04 PM PDT by Red Badger (The Army makes the world safe for democracy. The Marines make the world safe for the Army.....)
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To: Gunner9mm

A quagmire is something one becomes stuck in and is often fatal......kinda like Dyke Pond on Chappaquidick Island.


13 posted on 06/27/2005 12:02:34 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: JLS

They are socialists when IN power... and traitors when OUT(Clinton broke that barrier). They have no vision or values other than to CONTROL.


14 posted on 06/27/2005 12:03:44 PM PDT by johnny7 (How often does a '47 Rodham require servicing?)
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To: Gunner9mm

The Tedward really has no clear idea WHAT a "quagmire" is, for him it is just an interesting word, and he seems to like the sound of it, so much that he tries to work it into conversation even when it is inappropriate.

But then so much of what the Tedward does is inappropriate.


15 posted on 06/27/2005 12:03:44 PM PDT by alloysteel ("Master of the painfully obvious.....")
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To: Gunner9mm
Teddy is playing to the same half-wits he has always played to. He just doesn't realise that there are a lot less of them.
For those that dislike the Phat One, wait till you get a load of his replacement Joe Kennedy.
16 posted on 06/27/2005 12:04:52 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (NASCAR - Because it's the way Americans drive.)
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To: Gunner9mm

The only quagmire in Gitmo is in the foggy, addled, pickled mind of that BLOB of worthless molecules.


17 posted on 06/27/2005 12:07:02 PM PDT by Old Grumpy
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To: Red Badger

I still want someone to tell that creep to his face, what a disgusting creature he is.


18 posted on 06/27/2005 12:07:05 PM PDT by Bossy Gillis
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To: Gunner9mm
Quagmire of a human:

Complete with man-boobs.

19 posted on 06/27/2005 12:07:34 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: Gunner9mm

I always keep in mind the real quagmire he dumped his Olds into, along with his intern, the poor girl he left behind to die a slow death while the "swimmer" swam out of trouble with the law while evading responsibility for her death. Scum!


20 posted on 06/27/2005 12:09:09 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus (Teddy is the scum in a real quagmire!)
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