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Chinese dragon awakens (prompting fears that Beijing will attack Taiwan)
The Washington Times ^ | 6/26/05 | Bill Gertz

Posted on 06/26/2005 12:29:08 PM PDT by Halgr

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To: bozot

In fact this past Spring, China & Iran signed a HUGE OIL DEAL. I bet you China ASSURED Iran as part of the oil deal that if President Bush tries to take out their Nuke capacity, along with Russia they will come to the Mullahs aid. Iran feels like their ten feet tall for two main reasons: 1. US internal enemies (MSM,Liberals, DEMS, RINOS) 2. Their Axis partners which include Russia and China makes them almost immune to massive US attack.


41 posted on 06/26/2005 3:38:19 PM PDT by Skip1
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To: tellw
How strong are the Taiwanese forces to repel a Chinese assault? Do they have a decent air force? Is there a militia of Taiwanese people who could defend the beaches and fight on the land?


Lets say that they are strong enough to hold off the initial Chines invasion and would allow the US to deployed a large land army. The question is will the American public have the stomach for tens of thousands of combat deaths. The way that a good number of Americans are reacting to a low intensity war in Iraq says No to me. IMHO, if it were not for President Bush strength & leadership are enemies most likely would have launch a major war against the US or forced our government to surrender. They KNOW President Bush would fight them tooth & nail so perhaps they are biding their time. However, the lack of resolve being shown by a many Americans regarding Iraq, May embolden China, Russia, Iran, N Korea. etc. to launch military operations. We as a nation are in DEEP Trouble
42 posted on 06/26/2005 3:55:47 PM PDT by Skip1
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To: RockinRight
"Who was President of the United States in the mid-90s...oh yeah...Slick Willie...thanks a lot, Bubba..."

We must not forget this. I say we strap Ms. Lewinski's boyfriend to the first bomb we'll have to drop to correct his extraordinary malfeasance.

44 posted on 06/26/2005 4:54:46 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: BringBackMyHUAC
I wonder...

A primary objective of the strategy here is to achieve a partnership with the fundamentalists in Iran and Algeria and to replace the present American-Oriented rulers of Saudi Arabia with fundamentalists. The opening in Saudi Arabia of a Russian Embassy and the probable opening of Embassies by Muslim states of the CIS (read: Russian puppet governments) should be seen, not only as an attempt to extract a few extra Saudi Billions, but as part of an offensive to bring about a political reorientation in that country.

45 posted on 06/26/2005 7:15:23 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: noiseman

That SOB will go down in history of one of the WORST presidents of all time.

In fact, as this situation mounts, the more we connect BILL Clinton with it...the less chance HILLARY has of becoming POTUS.


46 posted on 06/26/2005 7:47:37 PM PDT by RockinRight (Conservatism is common sense, liberalism is just senseless.)
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To: Halgr; All

I would like to ask the free-traders on this forum: How can a country, theoretically, have any military leverage over a second country that is beginning to control the first country's industry?


47 posted on 06/26/2005 8:35:27 PM PDT by anticommunist8
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To: reagan_fanatic

"If the Chinese attack Taiwan during a democratic presidency, look for this country to go crying to the U.N. like a child running to its Momma after getting stung by a bee."

And expect Bush to sell out Taiwan to Communism in fear of losing support of the corporations that have plants in China.


48 posted on 06/26/2005 8:37:20 PM PDT by anticommunist8
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To: Kuehn12; All

Question: (Anyone here with some "expertise" on military strategy as well as our current capacity to wage war with China, please opine along with all others of course).

Realistically, what are we looking at in terms of confrontation with China over an invasion of Taiwan? What will be the scope of such a conflict? Will most of the fighting be limited to a small area in the Pacific? Would it expand to their mainland or ours? Does China have or will they have the nuclear capacity to deliver a crushing blow to the U.S. mainland? Should we expect Russia to declare war on us should we attack China?

I am mainly curious as to whether or not this will be a large scale "global" war or is China a paper tiger as of now?


50 posted on 06/26/2005 10:45:00 PM PDT by streetpreacher (If at the end of the day, 100% of both sides are not angry with me, I've failed.)
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To: Ingtar
The focus is on Southeast Asia.

The Chinese are now lightyears ahead of the United States with regards to influence in the region.

Yin and Yang

51 posted on 06/26/2005 10:48:29 PM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: bigj00
If mcbain wins he will lead the charge againest taiwan.

Did you mean to say China? As much as I dislike McCain, I don't think he would be shy about going to war; in fact, he might be too eager.

52 posted on 06/26/2005 10:49:43 PM PDT by streetpreacher (If at the end of the day, 100% of both sides are not angry with me, I've failed.)
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To: Uncle Hal
The 2008 Olympics are scheduled to be in China. There is no way the commies are going to do anything to upset the Olympics games going to Beijing in 08.

That's the common sentiment on college campuses in Beijing. In fact, they seem rather worried that Taiwan will use that as a great excuse to declare independence just beforehand. Personally, I doubt they would, or that it would work, in any event.

I have talked to many college students at "English Corner" (every Friday at Renmin University, a chance to mix with a few Westerners and a few hundred kids). What is fascinating to me is that two young, soft-spoken, gentle-looking college girls state very simply and openly that if Taiwan refuses to reunify, it must be destroyed.
"Why is it so important?", I ask.
"It is a strategic base for the military, in case Japan ever attacks China again, and it is part of China."
I'm just not used to little girls innocently chatting about military tactics or widespread destruction, I guess.

FYI: Reunification is written into China's Constitution as a personal moral duty for every citizen, including those in Taiwan.

(I've been in Beijing for a month, and will be here for one more week.)

53 posted on 06/26/2005 11:02:41 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: tellw

Any naval invasion is incredibly difficult, especially against a prepared, scared, and motivated location.


54 posted on 06/26/2005 11:06:16 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Teacher317

I agree with the girls that China should be re-united. So when can the Republic of China invade the mainland?


55 posted on 06/26/2005 11:08:59 PM PDT by streetpreacher (If at the end of the day, 100% of both sides are not angry with me, I've failed.)
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To: Halgr
"Let's all wake up. The post-Cold War peace is over," Mr. Fisher said. "We are now in an arms race with a new superpower whose goal is to contain and overtake the United States."

And the answer is for us to ship even more technology and manufacturing infrastructure to the Chicoms than is already there.

Incredible.

56 posted on 06/26/2005 11:15:38 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: Army Air Corps
folks in eastern Russia and Southeast Asia should start getting nervous.

Why Southeast Asia? With the exception of Vietnam, most of the countries there are on very friendly terms with China. Chinese practically own most of Thailand already.

58 posted on 06/26/2005 11:43:53 PM PDT by killjoy (Real Men Love Bush)
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http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050627-010217-7779r.htm

"Beijing devoted to weakening 'enemy' U.S., defector says"
By Bill Gertz
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
June 27, 2005


59 posted on 06/27/2005 12:07:37 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Uncle Hal

"The 2008 Olympics are scheduled to be in China. There is no way the commies are going to do anything to upset the Olympics games going to Beijing in 08."

Like Russia in 1980 with Afghanistan?


60 posted on 06/27/2005 4:08:29 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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