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Native Deen's Muslim Rap
USINFO ^ | Phyllis McIntosh

Posted on 06/25/2005 11:40:09 AM PDT by Lorianne

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To: TASMANIANRED

Isn't an oud a lute, i.e. another form of guitar?


21 posted on 06/25/2005 12:17:43 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham (Moldau)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

Hey bud, How you doing.

Theory is the same, tone is different.

Middle eastern music is a completely different animal.

They have different scales, different timing than you think of Coming from an Exposure to Western music.

A lot of Western instruments have been incorporated in recent times.


23 posted on 06/25/2005 12:26:54 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Democrats haven't had a new idea since Karl Marx.)
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To: hugoball
It is important to realize that Farrakhan is the current leader of one of two main NOI factions that emerged after the Honorable Elijah Muhammad’s death on Feb. 24, 1975. Two days later, Elijah Muhammad’s son, Wallace Muhammad, was named leader of the NOI, and quickly distanced himself from certain aspects of his father’s teachings — most notably those denouncing whites as devils. Farrakhan, a high-ranking member of NOI at the time of Elijah Muhammad’s death, became disillusioned with the new direction and quit the NOI in 1978. After Wallace had renamed the group the World Community of Al-Islam (one of many name changes to follow), Farrakhan was able to reconstitute the NOI under his own auspices in 1979.

Via e-mail, I asked Claude Andrew Clegg III, author of another Elijah Muhammad biography, An Original Man, to give me his take on the controversy. Clegg, a history professor at the University of Indiana at Bloomington, responded: “The version of the story that characterizes Fard as being of Pakistani descent and having a criminal background seems to have some validity, though neither allegation has been conclusively proven. What seems most remarkable is that Fard seems to have utterly disappeared from the government’s (especially the FBI’s) radar after leaving Detroit in 1933. There were rumors about his whereabouts until the 1990s, when some believed he was still alive and living somewhere in California. Whatever the case, Fard was a master at remaking himself and was apparently a very charismatic man. Also, in many ways, the Nation of Islam’s depiction of him as God could only work and be credible to potential members if his origins remained obscure and his disappearance permanent.”

In other words, a very elaborate criminal enterprise.

24 posted on 06/25/2005 12:27:47 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham (Moldau)
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To: Lorianne
that they will hear no wind or string instruments, which are considered especially taboo.

What about the Oud and Nej, found under varying names in most Persian, North African, and Lebanese music? There goes some of the best Middle Eastern classical and modern music! (I guess Span-Arabic pop is no great loss ...)

25 posted on 06/25/2005 12:59:49 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Working Class Zero with wall-to-wall carpeting.)
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To: Larry Lucido

I concur, having made the same observations.


26 posted on 06/25/2005 7:50:32 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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peace to you all
i was just searching the web looking for more information on native deen.. and this little article seemed to pop up and so as any1 else wuld.. i started reading it.. and i found it very intresting but wat i found even more intresting was the replies and opinions on native deen.. and hw nearly every single person who replied seem to have known eveything about islam although they were nt muslims. they also seem to think that all muslims are arab... which is very suprising cos as far as im concerned dat is nt true. i also was astonished to read hw "muslims" are the slave masters... nw obviously ppl have gotten confused with "muslims" and arabs" thease are two different types of ppl.... its funny hw ppl who are nt muslims seem to answer there questions about islam themself.... nw as far as i knw if u have question on islam the best person to ask wuld be a muslim since they follow that deen... so if u guys have any question to ask ill feel free to answer dem.... anyhooo im off


27 posted on 07/20/2005 11:36:54 AM PDT by IlLuSiOns
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To: TASMANIANRED

as a matter of fact it is true that the teachings of the prophet Muhammad (s.a.w) forbid the playing of most musical instruments, as it clearly says in the hadith (teachings and sayings of Muhammad). You can't judge what islam says by looking at other people who don't follow the religion correctly. It would be best you take a closer look into the hadeeth and the Quran, which gives you a complete explanation and guideline of how one should live their life as a true,devout muslim.


28 posted on 02/13/2006 10:38:22 AM PST by aliuk
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To: aliuk

You dug up a thread that has been dead for 7 months to comment on.

A trivial and insignificant thread.

You got a problem?


29 posted on 02/13/2006 11:21:43 AM PST by TASMANIANRED (The Internet is the samizdat of liberty..".Liberty is the right and hope of all humanity"GW Bush)
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To: Lorianne
Because many Muslims believe that the teachings of the prophet Muhammad forbid the playing of most musical instruments, Native Deen uses only traditional drums in its live performances. Their tapes and CDs include a wider variety of percussion instruments, but a message at the beginning assures listeners that they will hear no wind or string instruments, which are considered especially taboo.

Sounds like 'must see'.

First, rap ain't music. Second rap is hard enough to listen to, but when the only accompaniement is drums...!

30 posted on 02/13/2006 12:05:25 PM PST by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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