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Patrolling the Borders
CrippleCrab.com ^ | June 22, 2005 | CrippleCrab

Posted on 06/24/2005 7:18:30 AM PDT by befree777

One of Bill O'Reilly's crusading topics of discussion is the issue of protecting our national borders, especially our southern border with Mexico.

His stance has consistently been to put the National Guard on the borders to reinforce the Border Patrol. While I agree with this approach to a large extent, I think another option would be to militarize the Border Patrol itself. In other words, put the Border Patrol underneath the Department of Defense, add a wing to the Pentagon and have Border Patrol representation inside the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

The BP would go through boot camp, as well as intense military training and survival methods. There would also be an elite corps inside the BP who would do specialty tasks that involve precision and a high degree of covertness.

This whole issue of border protection has been turned into a racial one. Nothing could be further from the truth. I'd like to ask these dunderheads who oppose higher protection of our borders if they would let just anyone into their HOMES without going through proper protocol. Would they care if just anyone who wants to, walk into their CHILDREN'S SCHOOL without signing in and getting authorization, possibly endangering their child.

Are the walls of their homes just as open to unauthorized entry as our borders are? If not, then they and their arguments are hypocritical.

Border protection is of the same mindset as the alarm on your car, the locks on your door, and the security of our children's schools.

There are boundaries around our country, our states, our homes, and our vehicles for a reason! Security!!! And each of these boundaries have certain types and degrees of protocol to cross them. Or face certain consequences. If an unauthorized person breaks into your car, it is a crime, punishable by the law.

I'd like to ask these same pinheads whether they would mind if boys could walk into the girl's bathrooms while THEIR little girl or their wife is inside. No? Well why NOT!!! That's gender descrimination! Do you see the senselessness of their argument?

Security is not a racism issue just as much as the previous example is not a discrimination issue. Security is a life or death issue.
- CrippleCrab


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: borderpatrol; illegalimmigration; nationalsecurity

1 posted on 06/24/2005 7:18:30 AM PDT by befree777
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To: befree777
If Congress and the Prez can come up with an $80 bln emergency funding bill for the military to continue operations and the rebuilding of Iraq, then there is not any reason they cannot with one week come up with emergency appropriations to build a double-wall fence/wall combo for the southern border that has the inner fence electrified. We can buld thousands of miles of roads , rail, and coastal waterway, but not a 20 ft high concrete wall/fence for 2000 mi and staff it with Natl Guard and BP agents?
2 posted on 06/24/2005 7:29:46 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: RSmithOpt
The BP would go through boot camp, as well as intense military training and survival methods.

The BP academy is longer than boot camp, and they receive extensive training in firearms, tracking, etc. This suggestion is a step backward.

There would also be an elite corps inside the BP who would do specialty tasks that involve precision and a high degree of covertness.

Who does the author think those guys were that stormed the home of Elian Gonzales? That elite corps already exists. They mainly deal with covert drug interdiction in foreign countries. Already been done.

I don't think that the author of this piece did any research at all.

3 posted on 06/24/2005 7:58:35 AM PDT by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: RSmithOpt

Don't make me laugh..... "The Prez" will do no such thing. Read this and weep.

http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20040109-105925-2373r

Quotes from "The Prez".....

"This program will offer legal status, as temporary workers, to the millions of undocumented men and women now employed in the United States,"

Quote, right from the horses mouth.

This is Amnesty.

"This importing of foreign workers to fill jobs is seen as a process that will continue even after current illegal aliens are legalized."

This is Amnesty.

He can't seem to get enough people to cross our borders illegally...hahahahaha


4 posted on 06/24/2005 8:12:16 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: wyattearp
This is a related article about the U.S. Border Patrol assisting in patroling Iraq's borders.

U.S. Border Patrol Helping Iraqis Set Boundaries
June 23, 2005

But establishing order at the country's [Iraq] out-of-control borders proved too difficult a task for soldiers, so the Defense Department is looking to other uniformed experts for a little help.

For nearly a year, U.S. Border Patrol and Customs agents, both now working under U.S. Customs and Border Protection, have been quietly dispatched to help establish Iraq's new Department of Border Enforcement.

Some are members of BORTAC, the Border Patrol's specialized tactical unit that deploys all over the country and even overseas.

Sam Snyder. an administrator with U.S. Customs and Border Protection's office of international affairs, helped put the border-assistance program together [in Iraq] and runs it.

"You want to help build a democratic state, and securing the border is one of the first things you need for national security," Snyder said. "You have to tell people that you can't just walk across the border."

SNIP

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5 posted on 06/24/2005 8:21:05 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: befree777

Two things:
1. Bill O'Reilly --Tilt.
2. Locking the barn door after the horse has gone.

1.O'Rielly is about a lot of things and most of it is ratings and audience. Relevance is often his most tragic victim. He really does'nt give a damn about any thing or ideal. Cheap sensationalism is really not current events...it's more like night time Jerry Springer...only Bill is Jerry and the geeks combined.
(Look at those beady mean eyes...he really is not nice.)
2. Border tactics: This is kind of like hiding the matches after the whole house is engulfed in flames. There are literally millions of illegals all over our country right this second. You don't really want to take time to teach a border patrol agent karate at this point do you?You and we have "bigger fish to fry". Let's stop thinking about the border and start dealing with the enormous problem in our laps.

If you stop and think about it, O'Rielly might be an Al Queda agent and immigration might be a clue that they have won already.

Have a nice Life.


6 posted on 06/24/2005 9:35:01 AM PDT by CBart95
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To: wyattearp

FEDERAL AGENTS stormed the home of Elian Gonzales. Not the Border Patrol. The Border Patrol that operates on the Mexican and Canadian borders with the U.S. needs to not only have military status, but they also need the directive and freedom to do their official job description.
- CrippleCrab
http://www.cripplecrab.com


7 posted on 06/29/2005 8:17:25 AM PDT by befree777
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To: CBart95

We cannot stop thinking about our borders. Yes, we have millions who are already here. No argument there. However, we HAVE TO seal our border and not allow the problem to get bigger. It has been estimated that hundreds of thousands have crossing WEEKLY.
It would be easier to deal with those who are HERE if we didn't have to focus on more coming.
- CrippleCrab
http://www.cripplecrab.com


8 posted on 06/29/2005 8:22:41 AM PDT by befree777
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To: befree777

I don't know what that link had to do with your comment, but you are mistaken. The Border Patrol ARE Federal Agents. A friend of mine was a member of the Border Patrol at the time. He explained the uniforms to me. The unit that was used was the special forces unit of the BP, usually used for covert international drug interdiction. They have a bit of a reputation. The cubans recognized the uniforms, and knew exactly who they were. That is one of the reasons that they were so totally outraged.


9 posted on 06/29/2005 9:43:42 AM PDT by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: befree777
Here's a link to a news article. (Link)
10 posted on 06/29/2005 10:11:52 AM PDT by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: wyattearp

I concede that the Border Patrol and INS were the agents in the "abduction" of Elian.
The method that they used was characteristic of the methods called for by Janet Reno throughout the Clinton administration. Consider Waco and the Ruby Ridge events.
I believe this was misuse of the government.
However, our borders should be protected by a militarized, and potent Border Patrol, not a Gestapo, a la Elian.
The link that I included to CrippleCrab.com is part of my signature.
Refer to the article entitled "Patrolling the Borders" toward the bottom left section of the main page.
- CrippleCrab.com
http://www.cripplecrab.com


11 posted on 07/01/2005 6:40:07 PM PDT by befree777
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