Posted on 06/23/2005 1:45:19 PM PDT by seamus
"It’s outrageous that the same Democrats who stood by Dick Durbin’s libeling of our military are now expressing faux outrage over Karl Rove’s statement of historical fact. George Soros, Michael Moore, MoveOn and the hard left were wrong after 9/11, just as it was wrong for Democrat leaders to stand by and remain silent after Dick Durbin made his deplorable comments.”
- RNC Chairman Ken Mehlman
Liberal Third Party Groups Urged Restraint, Blamed America:
Immediately After 9/11, MoveOn.Org Petition Urged “Moderation And Restraint” And Use Of “International Judicial Institutions.”
• “We, The Undersigned, Citizens And Residents Of The United States Of America … Appeal To The President Of The United States, George W. Bush … And To All Leaders Internationally To Use Moderation And Restraint In Responding To The Recent Terrorist Attacks Against The United States.” (MoveOn.Org Website, “MoveOn Peace,” http://web.archive.org/web/20021127190638/peace.moveon.org/petition.php3, Posted 9/13/01, Accessed 6/23/05)
• “We Implore The Powers That Be To Use, Wherever Possible, International Judicial Institutions And International Human Rights Law To Bring To Justice Those Responsible For The Attacks, Rather Than The Instruments Of War, Violence Or Destruction.” (MoveOn.Org Website, “MoveOn Peace,” http://web.archive.org/web/20021127190638/peace.moveon.org/petition.php3, Posted 9/13/01, Accessed 6/23/05)
• “[W]e Demand That There Be No Recourse To Nuclear, Chemical Or Biological Weapons, Or Any Weapons Of Indiscriminate Destruction, And Feel That It Is Our Inalienable Human Right To Live In A World Free Of Such Arms.” (MoveOn.Org Website, “MoveOn Peace,” http://web.archive.org/web/20021127190638/peace.moveon.org/petition.php3, Posted 9/13/01, Accessed 6/23/05)
Just After 9/11, Liberal Filmmaker Michael Moore Derided “Terror And Bloodshed” Committed By Americans. (David Brooks, Op-Ed, “All Hail Moore,” The New York Times, 6/26/04)
• Just After 9/11, Moore Blamed America’s “Taxpayer-Funded Terrorism” And Bush Administration For Terrorist Attacks. “We abhor terrorism – unless we’re the ones doing the terrorizing. We paid and trained and armed a group of terrorists in Nicaragua in the 1980s who killed over 30,000 civilians. That was OUR work. You and me.…Let’s mourn, let’s grieve, and when it’s appropriate let’s examine our contribution to the unsafe world we live in.” (Michael Moore Website Archive, “Death, Downtown,” Posted 9/12/01, www.michaelmoore.com, Accessed 7/27/04)
• Michael Moore Said U.S. Should Not Have Removed Taliban After 9/11. Moore: “Likewise, to bomb Afghanistan – I mean, I’ve never understood this, Tim.” (CNBC’s “Tim Russert,” 10/19/02)
Liberal Donor George Soros Claimed America Should Have Treated 9/11 Attacks As Crime, Responded With Police Work. “War is a false and misleading metaphor in the context of combating terrorism. Treating the attacks of September 11 as crimes against humanity would have been more appropriate. Crimes require police work, not military action. To protect against terrorism, you need precautionary measures, awareness, and intelligence gathering – all of which ultimately depend on the support of the populations among which terrorists operate. Imagine for a moment that September 11 had been treated as a crime. We would have pursued Bin Laden in Afghanistan, but we would not have invaded Iraq. Nor would we have our military struggling to perform police work in full combat gear and getting killed in the process.” (George Soros, The Bubble Of American Supremacy, 2004, p. 18)
• Soros Said The Execution Of 9/11 Attacks “Could Not Have Been More Spectacular.” “Admittedly, the terrorist attack was a historic event in its own right. Hijacking fully loaded airplanes and using them as suicide bombs was an audacious idea, and the execution could not have been more spectacular.” (George Soros, The Bubble Of American Supremacy, 2004, p. 2)
• Soros Said War On Terror Had Claimed More Innocent Victims Than 9/11 Attack Itself. “This is a very tough thing to say, but the fact is, that the war on terror as conducted by this administration, has claimed more innocent victims that the original attack itself.” (George Soros, Remarks At Take Back America Conference, Washington, DC, 6/3/04)
Liberal Democrats Urged Restraint, Blamed America:
Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH): “‘The Time For Peace Is Now,’ [Kucinich] Declared Optimistically July 11, Two Months To The Day Before Terrorists Hit The Pentagon And The World Trade Center. … Sitting In His Capitol Hill Office Last Week, Near A Window Where He Could See The Smoke Rising From The Pentagon On Sept. 11, Kucinich Insisted He Is More Optimistic Than Ever That People Worldwide Are Ready To Embrace The Cause Of Nonviolence.” (Elizabeth Auster, “Offer The Hand Of Peace,” [Cleveland, OH] Plain Dealer, 9/30/01)
• Kucinich: “Afghanistan May Be An Incubator Of Terrorism But It Doesn’t Follow That We Bomb Afghanistan …” (Elizabeth Auster, “Offer The Hand Of Peace,” [Cleveland, OH] Plain Dealer, 9/30/01)
Rep. Neil Abercrombie (D-HI): “Only Now Are We Trying To Figure Out What Is Islam. Maybe If There Was A Department Of Peace, They Would Be Able To Say, ‘Uh-Oh, We’ve Got Some Problems With These People,’ … I Truly Believe That If We Had A Department Of Peace, We Would Have Seen [9/11] Coming.” (Ethan Wallison, “War A Challenge For Peace Caucus,” Roll Call, 10/1/01)
Rep. Barbara Lee (D-CA): “I Am Convinced That Military Action Will Not Prevent Further Acts Of International Terrorism Against The United States.” (Eddy Ramirez, “Calif. Congresswoman Alone In Vote Against War Powers Resolution,” [University Of California-Berkeley] Daily Californian, 9/17/01)
Al Sharpton (D-NY) Said That The Attacks On The World Trade Center Are Evidence That “America Is Beginning To Reap What It Has Sown.” (Adam Nagourney, “Say It Loud,” The New York Times, 12/1/02)
Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D-OH) Claimed Osama Bin Laden Could Be Compared To “Revolutionaries That Helped To Cast Off The British Crown.” “‘One could say that Osama bin Laden and these non-nation-state fighters with religious purpose are very similar to those kind of atypical revolutionaries that helped to cast off the British crown,’ Kaptur told an Ohio newspaper, The (Toledo) Blade.” (Malie Rulon, “Lawmaker Compares Osama, U.S. Patriots,” The Associated Press, 3/6/03)
Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE) Said The United States Would “Pay Every Single Hour, Ever Single Day” That Bombs Were Dropped In Afghanistan. “‘How much longer does the bombing campaign continue?’ Biden asked during an Oct. 22 speech at the Council on Foreign Relations. ‘We’re going to pay every single hour, every single day it continues.’” (Miles A. Pomper, "Building Anti-Terrorism Coalition Vaults Ahead Of Other Priorities," Congressional Quarterly Weekly, 10/26/01)
• “The Bombing Campaign, [Biden] Said, Reinforced Existing Stereotypes Of The United States As A ‘High-Tech Bully …’” (Miles A. Pomper, "Building Anti-Terrorism Coalition Vaults Ahead Of Other Priorities," Congressional Quarterly Weekly, 10/26/01)
Gov. Howard Dean (D-VT) Said Osama Bin Laden Not Guilty. Dean: “I Still Have This Old-Fashioned Notion That Even With People Like Osama, Who Is Very Likely To Be Found Guilty, We Should Do Our Best Not To, In Positions Of Executive Power, Not To Prejudge Jury Trials.” (“Dean Not Ready To Pronounce Osama Bin Laden Guilty,” The Associated Press, 12/26/03)
Sen. Patty Murray (D-WA) To High School Students: “How Would [Muslims] Look At Us Today If We Had Been There Helping Them With Some Of That Rather Than Just Being The People Who Are Going To Bomb In Iraq And Go To Afghanistan? … War Is Expensive Too … Your Generation Ought To Be Thinking About Whether We Should Be Better Neighbors Out In Other Countries So That They Have A Different Vision Of Us.” (Gregg Herrington, “Senator Asks Students To Ponder,” The [Vancouver, WA] Columbian, 12/19/02)
Sen. John Kerry (D-MA): “[W]ar On Terror Is Far Less Of A Military Operation And Far More Of An Intelligence-Gathering, Law-Enforcement Operation.” (The Iowa Brown & Black Coalition Presidential Forum, Des Moines, IA, 1/11/04)
• Kerry: “[W]hat We’ve Learned Is That The War On Terror Is Much More Of An Intelligence Operation And A Law Enforcement Operation.” (NPR’s “All Things Considered,” 3/19/03)
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The Democrats who responded to Rove just fell into a big potential trap. Too bad most come from States or districts that have no idea what freedom means.
I wouldn't give the DemonRATs the honor of being associated with Smokin' Joe. Gerry Cooney or Andrew Golatta is more appropriate.
Reminded them that I have a letter signed by Corzine suggesting we weaken the Patriot Act.
I also reminded them that I called the other day and was assured that the Senator would be making a statement against the suggestion that our sons and daughters were nazi like.
Since Corzine did not have the guts to criticize Durbin and wants to weaken the Patriot Act, I think the charges fit perfectly.
Told him we can't wait for him to come home and run for Governor!
These quotes reinforce that point. Now the Republicans have the opportunity to drag up all of the words by various Democrats essentially supporting the terrorists. It will get worse. Now when any Democrat screams anything anti-war or anti-military someone can stand back and say, "See Rove was right!"
Absolutely brilliant.
HOORAH Sir. I am a 36 year old American male black conservative Republican who "gets it".I salute you for your service.
He had a comment for both liberals and democrats. Just as up above there are responses for both "liberals" and "liberal democrats".
I can't remember what his two comments were, the one about liberals was slightly more negative than the one about democrats. I think the "liberals" wanted to be understanding, and the "democrats" wanted to treat the problem as a law enforcement task.
I heard that Kennedy demanded that Rummie resign; Rummie should demand that Kennedy resign!
I was just thinking the same thing ;0)
Thanks for the research and post! Ken Mehlman acts quickly and with targeted, intelligent comments.
Or can we at least acknowledge that Karl was a bit over the top with that one?
I wouldn't give the DemonRATs the honor of being associated with Smokin' Joe. Gerry Cooney or Andrew Golatta is more appropriate.
Andrew Golotta? Now that's hitting helow the belt! /hahahahahaha
Point assimilated.
I've been working all day while this hullabaloo erupted, but as I drove home I was listening to the radio, and Hannity played a bit of John Kerry speaking on the senate floor about how terrible it is that Rove would say that liberals wanted us to treat 9/11 as a criminal matter as opposed to a war.
All I could think about was John Kerry's campaign promise that he would treat terrorism as a criminal matter and also his quote that "the threat of terrorism has been greatly exaggerated."
Brilliant!
Nah, I demand the citizens of MASS remember they are Americans and force kennedy to resign at the ballot box.
Minority Leader Harry Reid, Minority Whip Dick Durbin, Bobby Byrd, Ted Kennedy, Barbara Boxer, Chuck Schumer, and Hillary Clinton ALL attended a Moveon.org rally in March. All said, "keep it up, you guys! we love you" or words to that effect.
And, so, when they say pacifist things, some of that nonsense sticks to you. Sucks to have all that brought up again.....by your own stupid political instincts.
I heard Rove on Hannity's radio show yesterday, and he never once said anything that he knew would be replayed as being inflammatory...so why would he do it last night, without knowing exactly how the dems would react?
Rove is just so much smarter than the dems, and Mehlman is very smooth....
"Rove said the Democratic Party made the mistake of calling for ``moderation and restraint'' after the terrorist attacks.
This is what it says. When they come out with an official transcript, we'll see..."
He has been quoted as saying this...but also of saying "liberals." I don't think he would say both. At least I hope not.
nick
This would cause the Democrats to feel ashamed if they were even capable of shame.
Found this tidbit though...
they are masters of redirection they attack, then accuse others of attacking the lie, and call others liars they steal, and accuse others of theft they are broiling in scandal, and blame the accusers, nevermind that they are guilty. they're rubber, we're glue. they want us to stop saying things about them, so they're not constantly forced to redirect the accusations and blame everyone else.
Right on. Exactly right. But who are the sheeple who keep believing in this BS?
They're over at..... freerepublic. Please, check your brain at the door before entering the web site. That format of their site mirrors the Slug mentality. Amateurish, out of date and in need of some major reconstruction. But the freeps never notice that RimJob is stealing their money and not putting anything back into the site. That's how stupid they are.
HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHA!!!!!!
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