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Flag Protection: New Poll Shows Over 80 Percent of Americans Support It
US Newswire ^
| 6/20/05
Posted on 06/20/2005 10:35:24 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I can't wait to see how the courts try to define what a flag is (do the small plastic ones count; those on the ends of toothpicks; patches that are sewn on; a cloth flag with 49 stars; those on clothing) and what constitutes desecration (leaving it out in the rain; failure to illuminate at night).
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posted on
06/20/2005 11:34:54 AM PDT
by
NC28203
To: highball
beat you. ;) Yeah, but I caught the comment first!
We both fixed on the circular logic of the comment.
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posted on
06/20/2005 11:36:16 AM PDT
by
TheOtherOne
(I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed™)
To: TheOtherOne
I'm willing to call it a tie. ;)
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posted on
06/20/2005 11:38:03 AM PDT
by
highball
("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
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posted on
06/20/2005 11:38:08 AM PDT
by
dakine
To: NJ_gent
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posted on
06/20/2005 11:38:10 AM PDT
by
TheOtherOne
(I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed™)
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
My bumper sticker makes my position clear I believe.
I never saw an American flag burned at a gun show.
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posted on
06/20/2005 11:40:26 AM PDT
by
badpacifist
(American media...Petty is their nature , tragic their effect.)
To: gdani
"How many of the 80% have worn American flags flying on the outside of their cars where they are constantly snowed & rained on?"
Or fly their flags 24/7, regardless of weather.
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posted on
06/20/2005 11:40:33 AM PDT
by
LIConFem
(A fronte praecipitium, a tergo lupi.)
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I know that many of us are fed up with the gov.org that we have now. At some point down the road chances are they will have to be toppled, (hopefully not anytime soon).
My question is at what point does the flag represent the gov.org and everything they do wrong. Most of us here will say that the flag represents what out founding fathers did. Nonetheless I have a feeling that future generations might not feel the same.
The same thing applies to the pledge of allegiance. Is there a fine line between pledging allegiance to what the flag use to stand for and what our gov.org does in the name of the flag?
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posted on
06/20/2005 11:40:40 AM PDT
by
winodog
(We need to pull the fedgov.con's feeding tube)
To: NC28203
I can't wait to see how the courts try to define what a flag is (do the small plastic ones count; those on the ends of toothpicks; patches that are sewn on; a cloth flag with 49 stars; those on clothing) and what constitutes desecration (leaving it out in the rain; failure to illuminate at night). Aside from the item you mentioned... If they passed this amendment, it will take about two minutes for a smart capitalist to make a 'non-flag' just for desecrating that looks like a US flag but maybe has umm, 51 stars or 14 stripes. What then?
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posted on
06/20/2005 11:41:08 AM PDT
by
TheOtherOne
(I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed™)
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
New Poll Shows Over 80 Percent of Americans Support ItAnd these same 80 percent are the ones that can't see past a letter to vote for a candidate. I'm sure the Framers would be excited that the majority of the citizens of the respective states are for a constitutional amendment to protect a symbol. Maybe we can get a constitutional amendment passed so all the little kiddies will be forced to say a socialist pledge to it every morning in school as well.
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posted on
06/20/2005 11:41:42 AM PDT
by
billbears
(Deo Vindice)
To: so_real
After all, the flag is symbolic of the Pledge of Allegiance. Once allegiance is gone, so goes citizenship.Really. And to think this nation of states was able to last over 100 years before a socialist wrote a 'pledge' to a piece of cloth.
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posted on
06/20/2005 11:43:35 AM PDT
by
billbears
(Deo Vindice)
To: gdani
How many of the 80% have worn American flags flying on the outside of their cars where they are constantly snowed & rained on?That bothers me when I see it.
A little off-topic, but even worse, in my humble opinion, is exposing the scared name and symbols of Christ to the elements by displaying them on bumper stickers and such.
To: so_real
After all, the flag is symbolic of the Pledge of Allegiance.How could the flag even remotely be symbolic of the pledge? What came first, the chicken or the egg?
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posted on
06/20/2005 11:59:59 AM PDT
by
houeto
("Mr. President , close our borders now!")
To: dakine
Over 80% are wrong....Surprised?
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posted on
06/20/2005 12:02:22 PM PDT
by
houeto
("Mr. President , close our borders now!")
To: SupplySider
"even worse, in my humble opinion, is exposing the scared name and symbols of Christ to the elements by displaying them on bumper stickers and such."
Was Christ not exposed to the elements while he was on the cross?
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posted on
06/20/2005 12:08:49 PM PDT
by
NJ_gent
(Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.)
To: TheOtherOne
"If they passed this amendment, it will take about two minutes for a smart capitalist to make a 'non-flag' just for desecrating that looks like a US flag but maybe has umm, 51 stars or 14 stripes. What then?"
Then it's not a real American flag and wouldn't make any difference.
Would it?
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posted on
06/20/2005 12:13:35 PM PDT
by
Bigh4u2
(Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
To: TheOtherOne; billbears; houeto
Either you get dizzy easier than I do, or you are mincing words. I can't think of a greater symbolism of allegiance to these United States of America than "OLD GLORY" herself. (The Pledge of Allegiance being a vocalization of that sentiment.) I may not waste time with busy-body congressman proposing silly laws and amendments like this one. But I absolutely don't waste time with pukes burning, or defend anothers burning, of the Flag as some anti-American political statement. Citizens *act* like citizens rather than just wearing the term like a badge.
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posted on
06/20/2005 12:14:44 PM PDT
by
so_real
("The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
To: so_real
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posted on
06/20/2005 12:16:26 PM PDT
by
TheOtherOne
(I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed™)
To: NJ_gent
Was Christ not exposed to the elements while he was on the cross?Tattered, torn, beaten, mocked, bruised and bleeding.
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America, and to the Republic, of which it governs, one Nation, answering to God, with Liberty and Justice for all.
The flag is but a symbol.
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posted on
06/20/2005 12:21:52 PM PDT
by
houeto
("Mr. President , close our borders now!")
To: Codeflier
The flag is a potent symbol. It has meaning far beyond its form and color.
Instead of making flag-burning illegal, another way to to approach this is to pass a law recognizing in each person a privilege to use reasonable force, short of deadly force, to protect a flag from being abused. In places like Berkeley or Boston flag burners would be completely safe because no one would care. In places like Texas and Wyoming, a flag burner might get a well deserved punch in the nose.
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posted on
06/20/2005 12:22:25 PM PDT
by
JCEccles
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