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To: robertpaulsen; Nathan Zachary; ClancyJ

"brain-damaged"(quoting robertpaulson)

Please try to keep the facts straight. She was brainDEAD not brain-damaged, from the moment of her collapse, according to nathanzachary, who has rhetorically bludgeoned us over and over and over with his supposed medical and scientific expertise, and who is just as thrilled as you that she was put to death. Both of you cannot be right. However, both of you can be wrong.

To futher confuse and confound, A Mayo Clinic Neurologist who got in to see her said she was, in his opinion, minimally conscious, not PVS as the inerrant (acording to you) Judge Greer ruled.

But we have just got to get the facts straight, in order to discuss. Surely all would agree on that? Hmmmmm? Paging nathanzachary? Facts needed on another Terri thread? Bring us your "brainDEAD for 15 years" diatribe? Then robertpaulson and nathanzachary can straighten out the facts?

BTW, a radio news guy kept describing the autopsy, on the day of release, as saying she had suffered from "severe brainDEATH" according to the findings. It was not a slip of the tongue, as he repeated it throughout the day during newsbreaks.

Now I ask everyone, on both sides, how do you suffer "severe" brainDEATH?" Is there a less-than-severe brainDEATH???

So much for trusting that "the powers-that-be", who wanted her dead and succeeded, had all their i's dotted and their t's crossed...


97 posted on 06/20/2005 7:50:45 AM PDT by txrangerette
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To: txrangerette
BTW, a radio news guy kept describing the autopsy, on the day of release, as saying she had suffered from "severe brainDEATH" according to the findings

Yeah, starvation/dehydration tends to do that - as that was the purpose since she was killed.

Yet, she managed to live with that severe braindeath for 15 years. Wonder how that would be possible - braindead = life. Hm.......I thought they used braindead to allow them to kill a person. Am I missing another major revision in our end-of-life criteria (done without our knowledge or consent)?

116 posted on 06/20/2005 10:57:08 AM PDT by ClancyJ (McCain: "As far as the criticism is concerned, none of us care about public opinion.")
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To: txrangerette
"A Mayo Clinic Neurologist ..."

Or more correctly, "the director of a laboratory at the Mayo Clinic branch in Jacksonville that deals with unconscious reflexes like digestion". We wouldn't want to mislead people, now would we, txrangerette? Uh huh.

"said she was, in his opinion, minimally conscious, not PVS"

Ummmmm. Not quite. He said, "Schiavo might not be in a persistent vegetative state but rather in "a state of minimal consciousness." (my bold).

We wouldn't want to mislead people (again), now would we, txrangerette?

Lastly, this born-again neurologist visited Ms. Schiavo in her hospice room for an hour and a half on March 1, 2005 and reviewed only the heavily edited videotapes of her made by her parents (you know, the one where the balloon followed her eyes, oops, I mean where her blind eyes followed the balloon?).

But we have just got to get the facts straight, in order to discuss. Surely all would agree on that? Hmmmmm?

(Terri was brain damaged. If you've got a problem with Nathan Zachary, then don't clog up my in-basket by copying me.)

123 posted on 06/20/2005 6:20:54 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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