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Man convicted for causing miscarriage taunted girlfriend
Fort Worth Star Telegram ^ | June 18, 2005

Posted on 06/18/2005 7:29:42 AM PDT by tuffydoodle

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1 posted on 06/18/2005 7:29:42 AM PDT by tuffydoodle
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So? Love and hate letters are perfectly common.

Not very nice, but I've known plenty of ill-esteemed ladies who completely deserved them, pregnant or no.


2 posted on 06/18/2005 7:33:50 AM PDT by SteveMcKing (What happens in Vegas -- stays on your record.)
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ANY woman who continues to live with abusive man needs her head checked...

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
3 posted on 06/18/2005 7:34:52 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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"He says some really nasty things about her," Deaton said. "But what do you expect from an 18-year-old who is sitting in the county jail charged with capital murder because a woman talked him into doing something?"


"because a woman talked him into doing something?" Same excuse Adam gave.


4 posted on 06/18/2005 7:36:43 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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>> "Well, you fat, ugly troll I guess I'll let you go cuz I got tired of writting you and thinking what to put down, so hopefully I'll be especting a letter from you,"

The fellow's just a romantic at heart.

5 posted on 06/18/2005 7:39:01 AM PDT by T'wit (My favorite bioethicists: Ted Bundy, Ed Gein, Jeffrey Dahmer, Ilse Koch, Pol Pot and Ronald Cranford)
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I think you'd enjoy the argument krb has gotten himself into with texasflower on this thread.
6 posted on 06/18/2005 7:40:58 AM PDT by krb (ad hominem arguments are for stupid people)
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****"It's unfair that a doctor can perform an abortion, a wife can perform an abortion on herself ... (but) the person who helps them can go to prison for the rest of their life," said Flores' attorney Ryan Deaton, who plans to appeal Flores' conviction.***

Oh yes its unfair!

They should ALL go to prison for life!!!!
7 posted on 06/18/2005 7:41:42 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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People are piling on this guy because it makes them feel chivalrous. Knowing how some women behave, I reserve all judgement about him.


8 posted on 06/18/2005 7:44:16 AM PDT by SteveMcKing (What happens in Vegas -- stays on your record.)
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OUCH !


9 posted on 06/18/2005 7:44:19 AM PDT by Delta 21 (MKC USCG -ret)
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>> "Well, you fat, ugly troll I guess I'll let you go cuz I got tired of writting you and thinking what to put down, so hopefully I'll be especting a letter from you,"


'The fellow's just a romantic at heart.'

Good one.


10 posted on 06/18/2005 7:46:35 AM PDT by tuffydoodle
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There was a notation on the medical record, however, that Basoria had asked about an abortion and was told she was too far along..."But what now!! I am not in school! I am in jail!!!"...The letters, Flores' attorney said, are the writings of a young man who didn't know how to express his feelings.

..I don't, Who I despise more; the one kid, both kids, the lawyer..or all three.

11 posted on 06/18/2005 8:56:33 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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Wow, it's really scary the mentality and depravity that some young people engage in out there.


12 posted on 06/18/2005 8:59:30 AM PDT by beaversmom
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"Well, you fat, ugly troll.....

Sounds like a fan of FR.

13 posted on 06/18/2005 9:02:09 AM PDT by TightyRighty
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People are piling on this guy because it makes them feel chivalrous. Knowing how some women behave, I reserve all judgement about him.

Nonsense. People are "piling on this guy" because he is a violent thug who killed two innocent human beings.

Note that it does not matter which version of the story you believe; either way, he was willing to kill the twins because they were an inconvenience. If he did it to please his girlfriend, he is weak as well as evil. If he attacked and beat his girlfriend, he is simply evil.

14 posted on 06/18/2005 10:38:26 AM PDT by Logophile
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This is more likely:

But in the affidavit, Basoria said she intentionally stopped taking the prescribed vitamins and began jogging, even though she knew it might harm the babies.

... "He's out having fun with his friends. He's a senior," Deaton said. "She's getting bigger and bigger and fatter and fatter and she's very jealous."

... The doctor determined the babies were fine and didn't note any bruising on Basoria's abdomen or elsewhere, Bauereiss said. There was a notation on the medical record, however, that Basoria had asked about an abortion and was told she was too far along.

... Deaton acknowledges Flores and Basoria argued in the hours before she miscarried about him arriving home late, and Flores hit her. But, he points to Basoria's affidavit in which she says Flores had not physically abused her, and the autopsy's conclusion that the fetuses were dead a day earlier.

Her own affidavits and the doctor's testimony say that he's innocent.

15 posted on 06/18/2005 2:29:13 PM PDT by SteveMcKing (What happens in Vegas -- stays on your record.)
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Her own affidavits and the doctor's testimony say that he's innocent.

Innocent? Hardly. From the article:

Deaton [Flores' attorney Ryan Deaton], however, said Basoria decided when she was four months pregnant that she wanted an abortion. When she couldn't get one, Flores hesitantly agreed to press his 175-pound frame on her belly.

"He's out having fun with his friends. He's a senior," Deaton said. "She's getting bigger and bigger and fatter and fatter and she's very jealous."

Deaton acknowledges Flores and Basoria argued in the hours before she miscarried about him arriving home late, and Flores hit her.

"The reason I didn't want the baby's cause of my school," Flores wrote. "But what now!! I am not in school! I am in jail!!!"

I cannot think of likely circumstances under which it would be permissible to strike a pregnant woman. Can you?

16 posted on 06/18/2005 3:11:31 PM PDT by Logophile
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I cannot think of likely circumstances under which it would be permissible to strike a pregnant woman.

That's not murder. She did plenty to induce the miscarriage on her own, one blow shouldn't do it.

17 posted on 06/18/2005 3:14:43 PM PDT by SteveMcKing (What happens in Vegas -- stays on your record.)
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That's not murder. She did plenty to induce the miscarriage on her own, one blow shouldn't do it.

Apparently what Flores did is considered murder under Texas law. Even if the girlfriend deserves blame, that does not excuse his behavior.

You did not answer my question. Can you think of circumstances under which it is OK to strike a pregnant woman?

18 posted on 06/18/2005 5:22:16 PM PDT by Logophile
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"It's unfair that a doctor can perform an abortion, a wife can perform an abortion on herself ... (but) the person who helps them can go to prison for the rest of their life," said Flores' attorney Ryan Deaton, who plans to appeal Flores' conviction.

Could not have said it better myself. Rest assured Mr. Deaton that once we get the courts back this injustice will be rectified and we can put the doctors in prison too.
19 posted on 06/18/2005 8:45:06 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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I wasn't piling on, exactly. I was just wondering what went through his head. He calls her a fat, ugly troll, in writing, and almost immediately adds, "so hopefully I'll be especting a letter from you."

Is she really going to write back? You'd think that even fat, ugly trolls have their pride.

20 posted on 06/18/2005 8:49:16 PM PDT by T'wit (T'wit's Fourth Law: Liberals are always wrong, even when they come down on both sides of the issue.)
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