Al Jazeera: US senator stands by Nazi remark (Dachau Durbin)

Al Jazeera ^ | 6/16/05

[ANGGAPO]

Unfortunately at that time the Democrats were around, however the democrats of that day are the Republicans of today. Time changes everything.

[marty60]

should be phoqUing

[WoodstockCat]

I vote for deportation of the Gitmo 520....by air to ground missle to Iran.

[TheForceOfOne]

Dick Turban Durbin is a traitor to his country!

[Foolsgold]

The U.S. Sedition Act first outlawed conspiracies "to oppose any measure or measures of the government." Going further, the act made it illegal for anyone to express "any false, scandalous and malicious writing" against Congress or the president. Significantly, the act did not specifically protect the vice-president who, of course, was Jefferson. Additional language punished any spoken or published words that had "bad intent" to "defame" the government or to cause the "hatred" of the people toward it. http://www.crf-usa.org/terror/alien_sedition_acts.htm Sedition

[savedbygrace]

His speech on the floor is Constitutionally protected, so he can make all the aid-and-comfort statements he wants to on the floor, and nothing can legally happen to him. Not to count being voted out of office the next time he runs, that is.

[TheDon]

LOL! Nice.

[DTogo]

I'd rather have Dachau Durbin arrested for treason/sedition under the Patriot Act. He knows full well what he was saying, the anti-American/anti-US soldier propaganda firestorm it would cause, his public position and where he made those comments, yet he made them anyway and refuses to apologize. It's not freedom of speech, it's purposely trying to cause physical harm to our soldiers, citizens, and country as a whole.

[America's Resolve]

I went to Townhall and blasted out an email voicing my displeasure as well.

[Paige]

This guy is the Poster Boy for the Democrat party. I am furious over these statements. The problem with Illinois they elected a Socialist because the majority in the state are corrupt or are Socialist or are both. These Modern Liberals aren't Democrats any more and their new name should be Sociocrats.

[marty60]

I would like very much to HEAR a little out cry from the citizens of his state. DO THEY agree with this BS. If not, WHEN will the RECALL election be held?

[southlake_hoosier]

Need to thank the Dumocrat Machine in Illinois. Just like no one in New York voted for Hillary, no one voted in Illinois for Dick Dirtbag.

Somehow they wind up in Washington, and on Intelligence Committees.

[Digger]

Where is the Republican response?? What about his democratic constituents. Is that what they stand for? What about the good people of Illinois throwing this bastard out by a recall? What about us FReepers making him out target & never relenting on it until he is gone? How about independents in Illinois standing up to him? HELLO! Is there anyone going to stop this man. How about the Justice Dept going after things he said months ago about classified information? To the administration where are you? Oh I forgot. This is the "Two-Party Cartel".

[softwarecreator]

I swear to God... If I was a Republican Senator, I'd be jumping over tables to get at this pri_k

I know what you mean.  I haven't been this seeing-red mad since ... well, since the last time our elected traitors opened their mouths.

The military should be at his office door right now and escort him to prison.  No trials, no courts, no lwayers ... just a short prison trip and then the noose.

[ambrose]

Durbin fits in with the long tradition of Copperhead Democrats:

http://www.worldhistory.com/wiki/C/Copperheads-(politics).htm

Copperheads (politics)
Copperheads (politics) in the news

Warning: there is some racist (the " N-word") language in this article. It is simply the language that was used during the American Civil War.

The Copperheads were a group of Northern Democrats who opposed the American Civil War, wanting an immediate peace settlement with the Confederates. They were also called Peace Democrats.

The most famous Copperhead was Clement L. Vallandigham, who was a serious thorn in President Lincoln's side.
More on the Copperhead agenda

They opposed emancipation of American slaves, forming groups to persuade Union soldiers to desert, and helped Confederate prisoners of war escape. The name Copperheads was given to them by Republicans and may have derived from the venomous snake (the Copperhead) that strikes without warning or may have been a reference to the copper liberty-head coins which many wore as badges.

Copperheads opposed turning the Civil war into a total war to destroy the South and restore the Union. They sometimes met with Confederates, aiming at restoring peace.
How they were treated in the Union

As war opponents, they were suspected of disloyalty, Lincoln often having them arrested. In summer 1864, Ulysses S. Grant was bogged down in the Siege of Petersburg and William Tecumseh Sherman getting nowhere in Georgia. At this sad moment for the Union, during midterm election in Lincoln's home state of Kentucky, Lincoln suspended habeas corpus and arresting every Democrat he could round up. The Democrats still swept the July 1864 election in Kentucky.

The Confederates loved the Copperheads and encouraged their activities whenever possible.
Areas of strength

The Copperheads were strongest in Irish Catholic groups (poor Catholics were often anti-war, expecting to lose jobs to newly-freed slaves) in the eastern Pennsylvania coal country, and German Catholic areas of Wisconsin. They were also strong in border areas. They sometimes carried signs reading things such as "The Constitution As It Is, The Union As It Was," or, more offensively, "We won't fight to free the nigger."

Every Union defeat such as the Battle of Chancellorsville led to louder calls from the Copperheads — and given the inept Union leadership through much of the war, they had ample ammunition.
The decline of the Copperheads

After the spectacular victory at the Battle of Atlanta in Fall, 1864, and the end in sight of Grant's dug-in siege of Petersburg, the Copperheads declined in influence.

[ambrose]

His speech on the floor is Constitutionally protected, so he can make all the aid-and-comfort statements he wants to on the floor, and nothing can legally happen to him.

He can be reprimanded by his fellow senators for those remarks.

[CROSSHIGHWAYMAN]

Something in the water in Illinois?

Obama and Durbin.

A black-skinned white and a dickhead.

[WoodstockCat]

never happen unless they arrange a tit-for-tat with Santorum's remarks.
I'm with Rush, Durbin has told the truth about what he and better than 70% of the current Democrats in Congress really think about our U.S. military and the soveirgnty of our country.
No apology is needed from him, what is needed is resignation.

[Coldwater Creek]

THAT'S RIGHT PUT ALL OF THE BLAME ON G.BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[WmDonovan]

'US Senator Dick Durbin on Wednesday refused to apologise for comments he made on the Senate floor referring to Nazis, Soviet gulags and a "mad regime" like Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge in Cambodia.'

This is not only treasonous slander against our own troops, but Senator Dickweed is spitting on the mass graves of those who went to real gulags.

Here is a proposal: any Senator who doesn't like Gitmo can participate in an 'adopt-a-terrorist' program, whereby a group of the Gitmo detainees can be be housed in said Senator's home state.

In WWII, if a 'combatent' was caught out of uniform they were summarily executed. A good example was during the battle of the bulge where Nazis wore GI uniforms to misdirect traffic. When captured they were just lined up and shot. Wonder if Senator Dickweed will pass a resolution calling for an apology to Nazi victims of GI atrocities (I mean, a bullet in the head? No free copies of Mien Kampf, no bratwurst, no ACLU lawyers?)