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Key Questions on Immigration - The single most powerful issue in the United States today
NEWSMAX ^ | June 1, 2005 | John LeBoutillier

Posted on 06/16/2005 8:03:09 AM PDT by Happy2BMe

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To: jpsb
Our ruling class is trying to flood the country with millons of third worlders that will do there bidding and kill of the American middle class

There will come a time when our "ruling class" learns there IS NO ruling class in the United States of America. If anyone rules, it is WE THE PEOPLE (Something Vicente Fox needs to learn one way, or another).

There are constitutional reasons WE CAN tell this Government to, well, "bite me".

21 posted on 06/16/2005 9:02:15 AM PDT by Iron Matron (The UNITED STATES OF AMERICA , By the Blood of our Forefathers a Sovereign Nation.)
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To: Dane

Even a broken (analog) clock is right twice a day.


22 posted on 06/16/2005 9:05:40 AM PDT by Disambiguator (Making accusations of racism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: Sybeck1
Everyone one of us should email the president, our senators, our representatives those very questions.

LOL! You know those envelopes you get when your representative or the RNC want a donation? Well, I must get three or four request a week.

These little envelopes are perfect vehicles to carry your questions on immigration issues. I place my questions in those envelopes, sans donation, and send them to the sender.

No, they do not get a stamp from me, but they do get a clear reason for my closed pocketbook.

23 posted on 06/16/2005 9:08:58 AM PDT by Iron Matron (The UNITED STATES OF AMERICA , By the Blood of our Forefathers a Sovereign Nation.)
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To: Happy2BMe
Why is George Bush Importing millions of Mexicans(and other nationalitys),, ON PURPOSE.?..

Its no accident. Is he too busy?.. Is he dumb as a box of rocks?..
Does he not know they will become democrats.?.
Is Bush controlled by the same kind of blackmail John McLaim is controlled by.?. WHY??
There must be a REASON..

24 posted on 06/16/2005 9:19:07 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe
There must be a REASON..

The Reason

25 posted on 06/16/2005 9:29:23 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: hosepipe
For the answer - follow the money trail - it leads straight to the UNDERGROUND ECONOMY.
26 posted on 06/16/2005 9:32:05 AM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe

So when is our President going to pay attention to this country as he does to all the other countries? Giving money to Africa, Iraq, etc? Hey, President Bush, how about protecting us from an invasion?

Close the DARN border!


27 posted on 06/16/2005 9:40:26 AM PDT by Die_Hard Conservative Lady (I have left this blank for a reason....)
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To: Regulator

The purpose of NAFTA-- fyi. You can also search out "mode 4" or "mode four" in GATS and the WTO website. The "free movement of persons" was decided a long time ago, before Clinton ever signed the bill that created the WTO.
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At a continental level, the N.A.F.T.A. is ultimately aimed at allowing the free movement of labour and its products across national boundaries. Ongoing restriction of this movement is supposed to allow the public and private sectors to adjust to a continental market, before starting the free movement of workers across borders. While this seems like a logical process, it can equally be argued that these restrictions, once again, benefit only the largest corporate interests within all three nations, while dooming smaller companies and individual workers to a type of regional labour bondage, which in turn legislates an ever deepening pit of poverty for the vast majority, and a non-competitive profiteering environment for the elite minority. At times it seems the true objective of the N.A.F.T.A.'s implementation schedule, is to make sure huge corporations get all the cream out of the free trade environment, before smaller entrepreneurs can get a look-in.

Canadian Association of Labour Lawyers
Sheila Greckol, Jeffrey Sack, Claude Melançon


http://www.naalc.org/english/review_annex5_can.shtml
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CAFTA will increase illegal immigration. The services clause in CAFTA is an implementation of the GATS Mode-1 of the WTO. Mode-1 is the cross border supply of services, including business process outsourcing.

There are at least 4 Modes in GATS. Mode-4 is the free movement of natural persons also known as Foreigners employed by host entities.

Because CAFTA, NAFTA and the FTAA are all negotiated under the auspices of the GATS and the WTO, you can bet that mode-4 will be implemented as part of a "free trade" agreement.

Here are the modes:
mode one, cross-border trade;
mode two, consumption abroad;
mode three, commercial presence;
mode four, presence of natural persons



28 posted on 06/16/2005 9:53:01 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Regulator
JOINT WTO-WORLD BANK SYMPOSIUM ON MOVEMENT OF NATURAL PERSONS ...
29 posted on 06/16/2005 9:54:28 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Happy2BMe

You lost me. Why would Bush and the undergound economy figure into the invasion?

I am convinced the reason all pols are silent is because of NAFTA and that would explain why the invasion was allowed to get rolling under pappabush.

Now our less then esteemed leaders are waking up to the nightmare they have created and the media will soon pour gas on the fire and thats when the "fun" starts.


30 posted on 06/16/2005 10:05:10 AM PDT by winodog (We need to pull the fedgov.con's feeding tube)
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To: Happy2BMe

UNSEAT EVERY OPEN BORDERS POLITICIAN IN THE UPCOMING ELECTIONS!! (after they're properly tarred and feathered)


31 posted on 06/16/2005 10:26:04 AM PDT by janetgreen
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To: Happy2BMe
I can’t resist

Who sets the quotas by which immigrants are allowed entry into our country? Are the Congress and the president involved in these decisions? Who decides whether a Polish doctor gets in while a Chilean housewife does not?

In the 1950, immigration law was changed and national quotas were eliminated in favor of a family reunification based system.

I had heard about twenty years ago that Teddy Kennedy and other liberals 'altered' the quotas so as to allow fewer Eastern Europeans in – and increased the quota for Africans and Central and South Americans. The reason for this – according to what I heard – was that the Eastern Europeans were voting Republican when they became voting-eligible citizens while the Africans and Central and South Americans were joining the Democrats. Is any of this true?

See answer one.

Are the day-to-day decision on legal immigration made by anonymous bureaucrats buried somewhere inside Washington, D.C.? Who are they? Who appointed them? Are they Bush appointees or civil servants who are leftovers from a previous administration?

Both appointees and civil servants, however most regulation are codified by statute and law so they can only interpret and apply existing law drafted by congress.

Who makes the crucial 'political' decision(s) over which people get into the country? Who 'values' one nationality more than another? Is race a factor? Is religion a factor? Is ethnicity a factor? Is there 'racial profiling' at work here?

No, legal immigration is based primarily on family reunification, if the majority of recently arrived immigrants are from a particular race or area then it stands to reason that chain family based immigration will likely come from the same area.

Do we need a complete makeover of the immigration issue? Perhaps we need a Cabinet-level Department of Immigration to elevate this issue to the level of importance it deserves.

Yes we need a complete makeover. No, we don’t need bigger government.

How many illegals are actually in this country today? I have heard as many as 11 million.

That’s as good as anyone else’s estimate. No one really knows.

By dint of the fact that they are 'illegals,' there probably is not an accurate head count. What is the best guestimate?

Between 10 and 15 million is a safe bet.

How many border cops/agents do we have stationed on our southern border?

Approximately 10,000

How many miles of our southern border are fenced? Not fenced? Patrolled? Unpatrolled?

Approximately 20 miles is fenced. All of it is patrolled some areas more than others.

On our northern border, how many border cops and agents?

1,000

How many cops/agents would it take – and at what cost – to seal up both borders?

Good question, with the proper mix of technology and other resources the general consensus is between 20,000 and 25,000

A fence across the southern border: How long would it have to be and how much would it cost?

Approximately 3,000 miles. Cost billions.

Could we prevent illegal crossing of our southern border if we really wanted to?

Sure, start throwing employers in prison for hiring them and 90% will leave on their accord.

Could we revoke previous laws – posse commitatus – and use the U.S. Army for this task? Reserves?

Posse Commitatus would not prevent the military from being placed in a supporting role on the border. They are already there in some locations to a limited degree.

How many 'illegals' are arrested annually? How many are deported?

Last year approximately 1.3 million. This year will be much higher.

How much does illegal immigration cost our nation in social programs expended on non-Americans – health care, education and Social Security?

Billions, for specifics go to CIS.ORG of FAIR.ORG

How much is this offset by taxes paid by illegals?

Probably about 10%.

32 posted on 06/16/2005 11:06:28 AM PDT by usurper (Correct spelling is overrated)
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To: HiJinx

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Be Ever Vigilant!

Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!


33 posted on 06/16/2005 11:51:38 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Happy2BMe
I agree. Illegal mass transnational tresspassing will be one of the top 3 debated issues, especially for the 2008 presidential election. And if the economy begins heading for a downturn during late 2006 and 2007 I think that will be another top 3 issue, and somehow the war on terror/Afghan/Iraq....etc. will also be a major factor in the debate.

My greatest fear is that the GOP has gotten fat and full of themselves thinking they can't lose 2006 or 2008 and won't take the DEM's attacks on these issues seriously enough that will result in stunning election losses. GHWB & the GOP caused us to lose the POTUS in 1992 because of this "cockiness" and I read a lot of it here in FR every day.

In this post-Reagan era, the GOP hasn't learned to stop repeating its mistakes. GWB and the GOP had better come back out of the clouds and heed what their voting base is telling them, before it's too late. If "Hillary 2008" doesn't put the fear of GOD in us to stay focused and toe the line, then we deserve what we get. And just to remind us, the last time we got what we deserved, we got 8 years of that embarrassing pervert Bill Clinton. Food for thought.

34 posted on 06/16/2005 12:13:26 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (Excrementum Occurum)
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To: OB1kNOb

Yes, Teddy Kennedy is the fool who opened up the immigration floodgates with two immigration reform bills he sponsored in 1964 and 1965. Before Kennedy's immigratin bills America was averaging about 200,000 immigrants per year. Now, today, America is averaging about 3 MILLION immigrants per year (when you factor in illegals and amnesties). In a speech to the Senate in 1965 Teddy Chappaquiddick assured the American people they had nothing to fear from his Immigration and Nationality Act. And I quote Senator Teddy Kennedy: "What the bill will not do; First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually." (LIE #1!) "Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same." (LIE #2!) "Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset." (LIE #3!) "Contrary to the charges in some quarters (this bill) will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area." (LIEEE #4!) Now heres the funny part. Teddy Kennedy is now back, forty years later, with yet another immigration deform bill -- the McCain-Kennedy "Amnesty" Bill -- to supposedly solve all the problems that HE, more than anybody, created with his previous immigration bills.


35 posted on 06/16/2005 3:56:59 PM PDT by Ace Backwords
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To: Ace Backwords

Two excellent organizations fighting against illegal immigration are Americans for Legal Immigration ( http://www.alipac.us ) and Save Our State ( http://www.saveourstate.org ) Check em out!


36 posted on 06/16/2005 4:06:12 PM PDT by Ace Backwords
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To: Happy2BMe

bttt


37 posted on 06/17/2005 11:06:46 PM PDT by lainde
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