Posted on 06/14/2005 12:14:50 PM PDT by neverdem
And I for one welcome our new neo-conservative overlords.
I'd like to remind them that as a trusted TV personality, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves."
So are you telling me that any measure that makes law enforcement more effective is, for that very reason, unconstitutional? Or that any such measure is inherently inconsistent with the Bill of Rights? If so, then wow.
I didn't even see what was outrageous about it. Last time I checked, trademark infringement was against the law.
You don't seem able to comprehend English. Read what I typed, not what you imagine.
Well .. I don't agree with Bob Barr and all his "groups".
If anybody can show me EVEN ONE CASE WHERE SOMEONE HAS LOST THEIR CIVIL LIBERTIES - I'm all ears.
Until then .. I have only one small nit-picky thing I'm not sure about .. and that the search warrant without a judge's order. However, I found out by reading some of the text - that this expansion is only for AN ALREADY DOCUMENTED JUDGE APPROVED SEARCH WARRANT. In other words - a judge has to have already approved an initial warrant - before the police agency could expand the warrent (without having to get further approval) to include things like computer systems. And .. after looking at the computers - if they find suspicious email addresses .. they might need to check them out quickly before the hard drive is removed or destroyed.
From what I understand it would also include searching any new location which might have resulted from the initial search.
That is important .. because when you have made a house search .. and you discover there is another location .. you want to be able to go IMMEDIATELY and search the other location before the suspect has an opportunity to contact anyone to clean out the place.
And .. say the police find a ledger with a list of other locations involved in the crime - it would be imperative to be able to do a massive search of ALL the other locations at one time.
And again, there is nothing in the Patriot Act that is inconsistent with these provisions.
Oh, well then do they get a do-over?
Since the "government" cannot really do very much very well it always amazes me how efficient we think they shoud be. My experience with the govt consists mainly of paying taxes and buying stamps and since they don't do either of those that well I think we need to give them all the help we can. That includes the Patriot Act.
There really are terrorists killing us in our future either way. We will never stop them all will we? Affixing blame is always the big diversion.
What's in it? Did reading it change your mind about it?
How do you feel about the Patriot Act?
I'm really just curious here, as I haven't read it, so I feel a little silly trying to comment on it one way or the other.
Sensenbrenner seems to have a warped sense of conservatism.
He is also responsible for introducing this vile piece of legislation.
Sensenbrenner, the U.S. House Judiciary Committee Chairman, has introduced legislation that would essentially draft every American into the war on drugs.
H.R. 1528, cynically named "Safe Access to Drug Treatment and Child Protection Act," would compel people to spy on their family members and neighbors, and even go undercover and wear a wire if needed.
If a person resisted, he or she would face mandatory incarceration. Here's how the "spy" section of the legislation works: If you "witness" certain drug offenses taking place or "learn" about them, you must report the offenses to law enforcement within 24 hours and provide "full assistance in the investigation, apprehension and prosecution" of the people involved.
Failure to do so would be a crime punishable by a mandatory minimum two-year prison sentence, and a maximum sentence of 10 years.
Here are some examples of offenses you would have to report to police within 24 hours:
* You find out that your brother, who has children, recently bought a small amount of marijuana to share with his wife;
* You discover that your son gave his college roommate a marijuana joint;
* You learn that your daughter asked her boyfriend to find her some drugs, even though they're both in treatment.
In each of these cases you would have to report the relative to the police within 24 hours. Taking time to talk to your relative about treatment instead of calling the police immediately could land you in jail.
I guess you should have read the entire post.
After the agents left, Cox called the manufacturer of the Magic Cube, the Toysmith Group, which is based in Auburn, Wash. A representative told her that Rubik's Cube patent had expired, and the Magic Cube did not infringe on the rival toy's trademark.
And that they lost them because of some provision of the Patriot Act that is demonstrably at odds with the Bill of Rights. It isn't going to happen. Moreover, there is a ton of disinformation about the Patriot Act. You already mentioned some of it.
I guess I should be shocked that the alleged infringer denied the allegations. But I'm not.
You don't think much of the Constitution and Bill of Rights, eh???
The company that made the original Rubik's Cubes said that the trademark had expired and the toy store was free to sell the knock-off model.
I don't know how much simpler I can make it for you.
Maybe use smaller words?
I have, or at least I have read some of the most controversial parts.
The state-worshipers are slowly taking over Free Republic.
Who told you it wasn't?
"Has anyone here, for or against the Patriot Act, actually read the thing?"
"I don't think they have."
I've read it. Could you tell me who makes up the FISA court?
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