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Food Cop Fines Schools For Selling Fries
Consumer Freedom.com ^ | June 9, 2005 | Unattributed

Posted on 06/10/2005 3:07:21 PM PDT by Still Thinking

Texas Agricultural Commissioner and self-described "Food Czarina" Susan Combs -- famous for using state-level fiats to tell local school boards which foods they can allow and even banning children from sharing their gummy bears -- is robbing Peter and pummeling Paul. The Dallas Morning News reports that Combs has taken the unbelievable step of fining already cash-strapped public schools more than $8,000 for failing, even in small ways, to follow her dictatorial dietary decrees.

For years, Texas has attempted to remedy a systemic funding problem that has plagued its schools. The issue is so severe that legislators have suggested everything from soda and snack taxes to legalized gambling to bridge the budgetary gap. According to the Morning News, Combs' Draconian regulations -- one of which, a ban on cupcakes, was overturned by the state's legislature -- have only added to the monetary misery:

Wylie, like districts throughout the state, revamped its snack, or "a la carte," offerings this year to follow the complicated new rules. Snack portions are smaller. The beloved curly fires are gone. Consequently, it's been a tough year financially, said Theresa Johnson, the district's director of student nutrition.

As if that weren't enough, Combs is now exceeding normal bureaucratic slaps on the wrist to actually financially punish schools. Among the absurd fines:



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: food; foodpolice; nannystate; school; tx
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Besides the obvious, this neatly illustrates the evils of centralized funding from higher levels of government. Were is not for the fact that these districts are getting a large part of their operating budgets from the state, they could fax this nanny statist a Xerox of their ass, and there would be little she could do about it. As it is, if they refuse to take her little tirade seriously, the state will probably deduct the fine from their funding, if not withhold the funding entirely.
1 posted on 06/10/2005 3:07:22 PM PDT by Still Thinking
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To: Still Thinking

As long as they have time for this kind of nonsense, you can be sure that the Government is overfunded.


2 posted on 06/10/2005 3:16:54 PM PDT by Enterprise (Coming soon from Newsweek: "Fallujah - we had to destroy it in order to save it.")
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To: Enterprise

'Zackly.


3 posted on 06/10/2005 3:18:38 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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To: Enterprise

beauracratic waste says what...?


4 posted on 06/10/2005 3:19:39 PM PDT by Methadras
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To: Still Thinking
This also shows a tremendous ignorance of food and nutrition.

When it comes to the curly fries, it's not the fats and oils that lead to serious health problems ~ no sirree bob ~ it's the potatoes themselves.

All that excess starch in the diet makes the kids fat, surly and unemployable, if not diabetic, at an early age.

Banning Crystal Lite demonstrates how thorough the ignorance down there is ~ they probably think it's junk food, and have only the vaguest notion of what "low carbohydrate content" really means.

5 posted on 06/10/2005 3:23:36 PM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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To: muawiyah

But the bottom line is that it's an issue that should be decided between the district and the parents of children who attend that district. There is no need for the state to get involved in this issue at all (but don't expect that to stop them).


6 posted on 06/10/2005 3:31:59 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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To: Still Thinking
Hey, most of the parents probably think it's the oil in the fried potatoes and not the potato itself.

We are talking scientific facts here, not parental versus bureaucratic rights.

Last night we were debating a situation where the parents who belong to a non-doctor cult had decided to pull their daughter away from medical treatment before it was completed. We had people in here arguing the inalienable right of parents to do just that ~ . Interestingly enough they did not argue outright that the parents had the inalienable right to kill the kids, but I think that was simply out of politeness.

When it comes to eating starches, it's time to cut back in the school lunches. The kids need more protein and Omega 3 fat.

Texas also needs a new Agricultural Commissioner who is educated in the field to which she is assigned.

7 posted on 06/10/2005 3:36:33 PM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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To: Coleus

NJ was just blessed with this food ban too.

Ahhh, the iron curtain ::grrr::


8 posted on 06/10/2005 3:43:49 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: muawiyah

I am wonder why my generation (1970's), and all the ones before it, didn't have a problem with good old fashioned school lunches. They didn't create obesity, diabetes, or any other ailments in the population.

I can't remember any debates about Omega 3.

I can't say I agree with this amount of interference in something like a school lunch.


9 posted on 06/10/2005 3:55:52 PM PDT by auntyfemenist (Show me your papers...)
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To: auntyfemenist

Sure they did. You just didn't notice it for another 35 years.


10 posted on 06/10/2005 4:07:05 PM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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To: muawiyah
We are talking scientific facts here, not parental versus bureaucratic rights.

Bull. ALL issues are ones of liberty vs. central control. Whether the state is right on the merits of the issue or not, this issue is not within their mandate.

11 posted on 06/10/2005 4:08:05 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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Not really. It's scientific certainty that if you kill someone they are dead, and that has nothing whatsoever to do with liberty or central control.

It's the same with children's diets.

12 posted on 06/10/2005 4:15:46 PM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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To: Still Thinking

Why is it necessary for schools to feed the kids anyway? Let the parents pack whatever lunch they want and have the kids buy milk or juice for their lunch.


13 posted on 06/10/2005 4:35:53 PM PDT by MichiganCheese (If Hillary is the answer, it must be a stupid question.)
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To: muawiyah
they probably think it's junk food, and have only the vaguest notion of what "low carbohydrate content" really means.

Nope, their still stuck in the *fat and sugar are evil* 'mode.

They won't even LOOK at the carbs OR the fact the healthiest' meal in the world won't do you any good if it tastes like $hit and the kids won't EAT it.

It's plain ridiculous, the amount of waste....you'd THINK they'd get a clue when their numbers keep dropping.

14 posted on 06/10/2005 4:46:38 PM PDT by MamaTexan (God -- Bless and keep our troops ............... past, present, and future!)
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To: MamaTexan

We did manage years ago to get the local school district to quit forcing milk off on kids with lactose intolerance. The dieticians objected because, they said, the children would be consuming too much juice with too much sugar.


15 posted on 06/10/2005 4:48:48 PM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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To: muawiyah
We did manage years ago to get the local school district to quit forcing milk off on kids with lactose intolerance.

That's just ridiculous...but then again, so is a lot of stuff that goes on in school cafeterias.

There's a couple of ladies I work with that have been there 18 and 19 years, respectively, and all the ladies know their stuff.

Its the bureaucratic bs that's the problem. NO school has the right to be health Nazis.

Food, in and of itself, doesn't make ANYONE fat, lack of exercise does.... and making a perfectly healthy meal is pointless when a kid goes home and eats 4 bowls of cereal.

Besides, if their going to make the kids do without a soda machine, they need to quit being hypocrites and remove them from the teachers lounges too.

16 posted on 06/10/2005 4:59:04 PM PDT by MamaTexan (God -- Bless and keep our troops ............... past, present, and future!)
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To: muawiyah
Out of 12,000 border guards, not a single one has caught a terrorist. Out of nearly 200 criminal cases related to terrorism since 9/11, not one single defendant was a border jumper.

Texas needs to stay out of peoples lives. It isn't up to the state of texas to tell people how their children should eat. If school lunches don't meet parents standards they can send the child to school with a bag lunch. We don't need food police. Parents rights override states interference and I am sorry to see you don't agree. Get the government out of our lives, don't give them more control.

17 posted on 06/10/2005 5:04:57 PM PDT by calex59
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To: muawiyah
Not really. It's scientific certainty that if you kill someone they are dead, and that has nothing whatsoever to do with liberty or central control. It's the same with children's diets.

Children's diets are not the purview of the state, federal or state level. It is really strange that the life expectancy of men is now 75, and women's life expectancy is 79 because the people who are living that long ate pretty much what they wanted and the schools fed them what they wanted at lunch time. We all lived through eating however we pleased and feeding our children how we wished and they are still living and doing fine.

If you wish to feed your children a certain way that is fine, leave other people alone and that includes schools as well. Control is what it is about and it is easy to tell you are a control freak, you want to force your opinions and life style on everyone hence you see nothing wrong with the government having food police. I feel sorry for you because I suspect underneath your conservative outer layer you are really a closet liberal.

18 posted on 06/10/2005 5:10:59 PM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59
I don't believe anyone said the Texas school lunch program is MANDATORY. The deal here is that state law regulates the local school districts regarding the meals they serve. This is the bureaucrat who does the regulating.

Whether or not the kids eat it is a different question.

We might find out if kids can bring their own lunches.

19 posted on 06/10/2005 5:12:07 PM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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To: calex59; muawiyah

What you said, Calex (not that I think he'll listen). He keeps trying to debate the scientific merits of the actual policies, choosing to ignore that they are completely beside the point.


20 posted on 06/10/2005 5:15:47 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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