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Three more arrested in the Natalee Holloway, Aruba missing girl probe

Posted on 06/09/2005 4:31:02 AM PDT by kcvl

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To: 4everontheRight

I've wondered if these girls have been sold as sex slaves.. to work in brothels. I had heard of another incident, family from VA, and their daughter went missing. 2 yrs. later a man that had been in a brothel, said a woman asked him to help her and told him her name. He didn't believe her but when he came back to states he discovered a girl by that name was missing. They still cannot find her because these brothels are constantly moved and probably bring money to the area. Not much cooperation from locals. I hope they find this girl and that she will be ok.


81 posted on 06/09/2005 5:58:40 AM PDT by EmilyGeiger (Every time a system is made fool proof-a new class of fool emerges.)
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To: Hatteras
They may very well may be sincere, but the impression is that, no matter what the tragedy, these people see camera lights and they start brushing their hair.

I believe they get on TV on the advice of activist parents of similar cases. If you get some publicity, you have 10,000 volunteers helping search and a lot of media exposure. With no publicity, it's you and uncle Jerome loking for her. If it were me, I would get as much publcity as I could, even though those stupid "how did you feel when you found out your daughter was beheaded?" questions are repugnant.
82 posted on 06/09/2005 5:59:47 AM PDT by JayNorth
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To: fatnotlazy

I've been on one cruise and as you said, socializing was forbidden.

One thing that's bothering me about this story is the lack of comment from any of the other girls on the Aruba trip. It seems they would have information about Natalee's activities, possible alcohol consumption, and plans for the evening. Surely she had a roommate with whom she may have shared her plans. I don't even let my daughter (19 y.o.) go the mall at night without a friend or two.


83 posted on 06/09/2005 6:00:48 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: kcvl

Why weren't these three arrested from the first day? Dunderhead justice....


84 posted on 06/09/2005 6:01:28 AM PDT by Conservatrix ("He who stands for nothing will fall for anything.")
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To: Quilla
As tho something is wrong in using every connection on earth to help find your daughter.

What in the world has happened to FR.

85 posted on 06/09/2005 6:05:12 AM PDT by OldFriend (MAJOR TAMMY DUCKWORTH.....INSPIRATIONAL)
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To: Quilla
One thing that's bothering me about this story is the lack of comment from any of the other girls on the Aruba trip.

I find that odd as well. Nobody seemed overly concerned that she was off by herself until she didn't show up for the plane. No roommate? No close friend on the trip that she would normally hang out with? No buddy system?

86 posted on 06/09/2005 6:05:34 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Quilla

What bothers me is that this trip was chaperoned. Where were the chaperones?

I mentioned in another thread that my cousin's son went on a Greece and Italy cruise with his fellow graduates. The trip was chaperoned and there were rules that had to be followed, one of which provided for a curfew. The chaperones actually did bed checks to make sure the kids were in their rooms after that certain hour. One of the boys in the group repeatedly violated the curfew and ultimately was sent home early. The parents had to sign some consent and/or waiver form that gave the chaperones that right, among other things.


87 posted on 06/09/2005 6:05:48 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: 4everontheRight

RE: FBI scuba search team-Reporter in Aruba from CNN last night stated the team came to Aruba and has left, without ever putting their fins in the water. Reason reporter gave was that Aruba authorities had no clear area for team to start searching.


88 posted on 06/09/2005 6:05:56 AM PDT by uvular
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

I grew up on the South Shore but live now on the North Shore. We rack up lots of cross-island miles getting to a real beach.


89 posted on 06/09/2005 6:06:00 AM PDT by wtc911 ("I would like at least to know his name.")
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To: kcvl
If Natalee left with any of them she was asking for trouble (not that she deserved to be harmed or killed). She also probably knew why they were taking her to the "light house"

I've heard some speculation (pure conjecture, not evidence) that Natalee might've had Rohypnol (aka the "date rape" drug) slipped into her drink.

This was suggested by a sex crimes prosecutor, who added that Rohypnol lessens inhibitions before it makes you pass out.

If true, that might explain why Natalee went willingly with a stranger to go "see a lighthouse she hadn't seen before."

Also, I'm not sure she knew she was leaving with three men. She might have thought she was leaving with only one. IIRC someone who witnessed her leaving saw her get in the car with (apparently) only one guy, but then as the car took off, two other guys popped up in the back seat.

90 posted on 06/09/2005 6:07:57 AM PDT by shhrubbery! (The 'right to choose' = The right to choose death --for somebody else.)
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To: fatnotlazy
The few cruise lines I've been on -- it's ok to chat up the passengers, but socializing with them is forbidden.

That's probably true nowadays. I had a long talk with a former Club Med employee who said that in the "good old days" (1970's and 1980's?) he was highly encouraged to romance women at the resorts he worked at and make sure they had a really good time on vacation so they would want to come back again next year.
91 posted on 06/09/2005 6:08:32 AM PDT by JayNorth
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To: wtc911

Eventually I will too. I love the ocean beaches, especially Montauk. However, right now my boys are very little and the Sound beaches work just fine.


92 posted on 06/09/2005 6:08:45 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: fatnotlazy

The article does say he "tried" to have sex with her.

You can make your own image of what that is....

I agree, she may have rebuffed him and had fatal consequences....


93 posted on 06/09/2005 6:10:31 AM PDT by Conservatrix ("He who stands for nothing will fall for anything.")
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To: uvular
"RE: FBI scuba search team-Reporter in Aruba from CNN last night stated the team came to Aruba and has left, without ever putting their fins in the water. Reason reporter gave was that Aruba authorities had no clear area for team to start searching."


Wow!! That is interesting!
94 posted on 06/09/2005 6:11:16 AM PDT by 4everontheRight ( "I'm learning to dread one day at a time" --- Charlie Brown)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
My daughter's group of college friends never ever left any college party or function without making sure everyone was with one of their gang.

No one, NO ONE, left behind.

95 posted on 06/09/2005 6:13:18 AM PDT by OldFriend (MAJOR TAMMY DUCKWORTH.....INSPIRATIONAL)
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To: Quilla
One thing that's bothering me about this story is the lack of comment from any of the other girls on the Aruba trip.

They probably have lots of information. They're just not sharing it with the public, which is wise, unless they had specific information that would help to find her or get the perps.

I've seen comments questioning how no one could miss her until the next morning. In fact, we don't know when she was noted to be missing at all. Might have been at two in the morning when everyone else returned to the hotel.

96 posted on 06/09/2005 6:17:18 AM PDT by Toskrin (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: Quilla

I noticed that myself. One of her close friends' was interviewed last night on TV. She was very unremarkable(canned rethoric) and close friend's normally look out for one another. NSNR


97 posted on 06/09/2005 6:18:24 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: EmilyGeiger

The sex slave angel might work if this were not an island, but how would they get her off the island undetected? A boat? Certainly not by flying... wouldn't the boats in the nearby waters have been tracked early on?


98 posted on 06/09/2005 6:19:30 AM PDT by Conservatrix ("He who stands for nothing will fall for anything.")
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To: fatnotlazy

Discipline will get you through every time. This is something many of these young and older folks fail to understand. NSNR


99 posted on 06/09/2005 6:21:28 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

Yep, safety first.


100 posted on 06/09/2005 6:21:37 AM PDT by wtc911 ("I would like at least to know his name.")
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