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To: WKB

Huh?

I know what I believe. You were saying I believe the Cross just makes salvation possible, which is silly.

It is the opposite...I believe the Cross accomplished something. That is a cornerstone of Calvinism.


321 posted on 06/08/2005 1:15:45 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: rwfromkansas

Why don't you take a break?


324 posted on 06/08/2005 1:18:08 PM PDT by WKB (A closed mind is a good thing to lose.)
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To: rwfromkansas
I believe the Cross accomplished something.

I hope Calvin was more specific than that.

330 posted on 06/08/2005 1:24:22 PM PDT by Petronski (How do you solve a problem like Petronski?)
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To: rwfromkansas
You were saying I believe the Cross just makes salvation possible, which is silly. It is the opposite...I believe the Cross accomplished something.

You have a firm disconnect between the idea of potentiality and actual reality. You are not "saved." You might very well end up in Heaven. Then you will be saved.

But right now you are a sinful human just like the rest of us. The Cross allows us to be perfected through the grace flowing from the One True Sacrifice.

If I drop a rock into a pond, the ripples carry outwards. Even though the rock-throwing is "finished," the effects of the wave occur later in time.

This doesn't mean the rock or the rock thrower are not responsible for the waves, or that I believe the waves are my own doing. The question of whether something is "finished" in a timeline does not mean its effects do not carry outwards.

SD

332 posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:11 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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