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Wall Street Journal - Apple Eyes Shifting Macintosh Line To Intel Chips
The Wall Street Journal ^ | June 4, 2005 | DON CLARK and NICK WINGFIELD

Posted on 06/04/2005 2:32:50 PM PDT by HAL9000

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SAN FRANCISCO -- Apple Computer Inc. is expected to announce Monday that it will begin shifting its Macintosh computer line next year to Intel Corp. chips, people familiar with the situation said.

The move is a major change in strategy by Apple, a high-profile win for Intel, and a potential blow to International Business Machines Corp. and Freescale Semiconductor Inc., suppliers of the PowerPC chips that Apple has long used in its Macintosh systems.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: apple; applecomputer; emotionalmacheads; freescale; godhatesmacs; ibm; intel; mac; macintel; macintosh; macosx; powerpc; realcpu; slowerandhotter; x86
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1 posted on 06/04/2005 2:32:52 PM PDT by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000
Maybe I should take this a little more seriously since the WSJ is reporting it. This will make me furious!


2 posted on 06/04/2005 2:36:15 PM PDT by rdb3 (Yeah, but what's it spelled backwards?)
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To: HAL9000
Once the Apple Operating systems run on Intel, it isn't a big sttep to have them run on PCs. That will let PC users start out with a dual boot system and replace their Windoze Apps over time with Mac Apps until they can finally dump Microsloth altogether.

The big barrier of changing systems now is not the cost of the machine, but the cost of replacing all your software at the same time.

So9

3 posted on 06/04/2005 2:43:17 PM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: rdb3
This will make me furious!

Furious doesn't even begin to describe it.

They will have trashed the investments of every one of their users. How can they imagine that this will do anything but destroy the confidence of their existing user base without adding a single new new user, to say nothing of destroying their market capitalization?

They would be better off just wrapping up the computer business, selling off the iPod, and making a final distribution to sharholders.

4 posted on 06/04/2005 2:45:28 PM PDT by John Valentine
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To: Servant of the 9

I don't think that Apple has any intention of making a version of the OS that will run on other manufacturer's machines. That is a different issue and is NOT what is being reported.


5 posted on 06/04/2005 2:46:42 PM PDT by John Valentine
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To: John Valentine
I don't think that Apple has any intention of making a version of the OS that will run on other manufacturer's machines. That is a different issue and is NOT what is being reported.

Then maybe a PC emulation layer, since they wouldn't have to emulate the chip as well, to let new Intel/Mac users dual boot Windoze and it's apps while they transitioned?

So9

6 posted on 06/04/2005 2:52:32 PM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: Servant of the 9
until they can finally dump Microsloth altogether

Microsoft makes the most popular software for the Mac.

7 posted on 06/04/2005 2:54:58 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Servant of the 9

Maybe some sort of dual-boot machine. That's not a new idea, but it may be coming round again. I just can't see a phased switch to a new processor as that would alienate the Mac base. It would also create chaos for the software developers.


8 posted on 06/04/2005 2:56:04 PM PDT by John Valentine
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To: rdb3

One thing doesn't make sense to me ... if the earliest systems on Intel will be out in 2006, why kill your sales now by announcing it? Would YOU plunk down $3K for a new Mac to put into production knowing that if you just limp along for a few more months you can buy something faster and cheaper?


9 posted on 06/04/2005 3:05:37 PM PDT by ikka
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To: Bush2000; antiRepublicrat; Action-America; eno_; Glenn; bentfeather; BigFinn; byset; Bubba; ...
More rumor mongering on Apple -> Intel PING!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

10 posted on 06/04/2005 3:07:09 PM PDT by Swordmaker (tagline now open, please ring bell.)
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To: Incorrigible
Microsoft makes the most popular software for the Mac.

I have to disagree... Apple makes the most popular software for the Mac.

11 posted on 06/04/2005 3:10:19 PM PDT by Swordmaker (tagline now open, please ring bell.)
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To: ikka
Would YOU plunk down $3K for a new Mac to put into production knowing that if you just limp along for a few more months you can buy something faster and cheaper?

That's what makes me mad!

I recently spent over $3,000 for a Mac. If I would have waited for this, I could have saved some serious jack.


12 posted on 06/04/2005 3:12:03 PM PDT by rdb3 (Yeah, but what's it spelled backwards?)
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To: rdb3
If I would have waited for this, I could have saved some serious jack.

Not necessarily. If this happens, and that's still a major "if", I expect Apple will tie the OS to the hardware, much like they did back in the 68000 days. Both Amiga and Mac ran on 680x0 back in the day, but unless you laid your hands on (an illegal copy of) the Mac ROMs, you weren't running Apple's OS on your Amiga.

13 posted on 06/04/2005 3:21:11 PM PDT by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: Swordmaker

Alas, since Microsoft doesn't break out revenue for it's Macintosh Business Unit, I'm unable to compare it with Apple software sales. I can not confirm or deny my or your statement.

However, my statement was true at least a couple of years ago.


14 posted on 06/04/2005 3:32:19 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: general_re
I recently spent over $3,000 for a Mac.

rdb3! I thought you were married... and not in Massachusetts!

15 posted on 06/04/2005 3:33:52 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: rdb3

Whoops. The above was meant for you rdb3!


16 posted on 06/04/2005 3:34:30 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: HAL9000; All

I doubt this will happen..

IBM is way ahead of Intel when it comes to processors...

XBOX 360 has a 3 core IBM processor, Nintendo Revolution will feature a 4 core IBM processor, and the Playstation 3 will feature a single Core processer featuring 8 "subcores".

Apple would be leaving the IBM line at the wrong moment. Intel and AMD are just starting to get into the mulicore PC business.

Imagine a dual processor G5 with 4 cores in each processor.. It's closer than you realize...


17 posted on 06/04/2005 3:35:46 PM PDT by 1stFreedom (1)
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To: general_re
If this happens, and that's still a major "if", I expect Apple will tie the OS to the hardware, much like they did back in the 68000 days.

The General is SO right. But Apple's need to tie the OS to the hardware is all the more reason that this purported switch makes no sense. I'd be more ready to believe the alternate rumor now floating - that Apple will move to a dual-core G5.

18 posted on 06/04/2005 3:36:14 PM PDT by John Valentine
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To: Servant of the 9

:yawn:

It's not just that the OS will run on another chip - it's also that the OS will know where to look for the I/O. The board's structure doesn't necessarily have to be the same...


19 posted on 06/04/2005 3:47:00 PM PDT by solitas (So what if I support a platform that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.3.7)
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To: HAL9000

Moving to x86, or at least offering optional support for it, I can understand.

But Intel? Intel is way behind technologically. Apple should be in talks with AMD.


20 posted on 06/04/2005 3:52:16 PM PDT by Terpfen (New Democrat Party motto: les enfant terribles)
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