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Arizona border checks blocked
The Washington Times ^
| May 31, 2005
| Jerry Seper
Posted on 05/31/2005 5:29:06 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...
To: theDentist
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but illegals aliens and drug couriers for the most part do all they can to avoid the checkpoints. The few who are caught there are either terminally stupid or diversions.
You are misunderstanding, permanent checkpoints are just one more tool that can be used ..eliminating them eliminates a tool.
The checkpoints are one more obstacle and more than just the stupid get caught..it also causes smugglers to go around checkpoints, making those going around more obvious...and more likely to get caught...In
California they have shut down the checkpoint between San Diego and Los Angeles for a couple of hours, then set it back up, apprehending over 500 aliens...If there is a checkpoint, the people who cross have to be stored temporarily in "drop houses" near the border while waiting to go farther north. It is easier to catch the in these houses in large groups that attract attention than in one or two's just heading north.
What makes a congressman and authority on law enforcement?
Did you read the number of aliens apprehended and drugs found at the other checkpoints? Must be a lot of stupid smugglers or diversions....
To: CPOSharky
Checkpoint not checkpoints. There is only one. And it's not permanent. They are required by law (written by Kolbe) to shut it down periodically.
Stupid, stupid, stupid. Other checkpoints are apprehending approx. 140 illegals per day. That means they are effective.
And the checkpoint you speak of (along with the ones on AZ80 and AZ83) seals off the only route between the border and I-10.
As for going around, well...the BP agents know the trails used to go around their checkpoints and have eyes on those, as well.
Closing the checkpoints gives the slave-traders carte blanche to move their cargo north without interference from the BP.
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posted on
05/31/2005 10:21:30 AM PDT
by
HiJinx
(~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Operation 4th of July ~)
To: gubamyster
Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!
Be Ever Vigilant!
Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!
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posted on
05/31/2005 10:23:27 AM PDT
by
blackie
(Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
To: muawiyah
The math on this is very simple. With few check-points most of your border patrol folks are spending most of their time on the road instead of catching the bad guys. This is a huge area too. No, it isn't, not in terms of vehicular traffic. There are only three roads out of Cochise County between the border and I-10...and all three are sealed when the checkpoints are up and running.
Sorry, Kolbe is dead wrong on this issue. He's either listening to the wrong advisers, or...well, anything else is conjecture.
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posted on
05/31/2005 10:23:39 AM PDT
by
HiJinx
(~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Operation 4th of July ~)
To: muawiyah
Just follow this dude around for a few weeks and see who he visits, and then take a very good look at his campaign contributors. You are right of course. Money corrupts.
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posted on
05/31/2005 10:24:11 AM PDT
by
afnamvet
(31st Fighter Wing Tuy Hoa AB RVN 68-69 "Return with Honor")
To: rolling_stone
California they have shut down the checkpoint between San Diego and Los Angeles for a couple of hours, then set it back up, apprehending over 500 aliens Pointing out that BP planned intermittent outages are a tool to goad the traffickers into gambling on when the checkpoint goes back up. It's true that they are "obvious", but that can be used effectively.
To: rolling_stone
Thanks for explaining it more clearly. Now I understand how it works. The article's description could have been of pike fishing for all it's clarity.
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posted on
05/31/2005 10:32:49 AM PDT
by
theDentist
(The Dems are putting all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
To: Convert from ECUSA
Aguilar vs. Kolbe: he said, he said. Which one do you believe? I go with Aguilar, since he's the one on the job not just a puffed up pol.
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posted on
05/31/2005 10:57:07 AM PDT
by
La Enchiladita
(Remembering our Heroes today and every day.)
To: La Enchiladita
Kolbe is just an openly gay RINO. I can't believe the Republicans in Arizona keep sending him back to Congress. I believe he is also a Sponsor of the House version of the Kennedy-McCain Shamnesty.
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posted on
05/31/2005 11:08:10 AM PDT
by
jackbenimble
(Import the third world, become the third world)
To: jackbenimble
Somebody is pulling Kolbe's strings. I guess he has ambitions..
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posted on
05/31/2005 11:27:16 AM PDT
by
La Enchiladita
(Remembering our Heroes today and every day.)
To: HiJinx
260-mile is not a huge area?
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posted on
05/31/2005 11:27:20 AM PDT
by
muawiyah
(q)
To: muawiyah
It is huge in terms of land mass, but that is absolutely irrelevant when talking about the purpose of the checkpoints.
It is between 40 and 50 miles from the border to the main transportation artery, Interstate 10. Nobody walks that, the slave-traders use vans and pickup trucks to transport their loads north.
There are only three roads in the County that take you to I-10, and each has a checkpoint. And you can't just go around the checkpoint, because there aren't any roads that go around...not even jeep trails...that the Border Patrol can't control.
Think about getting food into your stomach...it goes from mouth to throat to esophagus to stomach. Close the throat, and you're not going to eat. It's the same here...the checkpoints effectively close off traffic north.
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posted on
05/31/2005 1:10:29 PM PDT
by
HiJinx
(~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Operation 4th of July ~)
To: Spiff
Kolbe threatens to cut off funding for the Tucson Sector if his continual demands regarding our checkpoints aren't metDespite what others on this thread have said, Kolbe is clearly not "all right." It's time to stop making excuses for anti-border-control RINOs, and start removing them from office.
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posted on
05/31/2005 1:25:04 PM PDT
by
Know your rights
(The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
To: jackbenimble
Kolbe is just an openly gay RINO. I can't believe the Republicans in Arizona keep sending him back to Congress. I believe he is also a Sponsor of the House version of the Kennedy-McCain Shamnesty. Kolbe isn't just a problem for his congressional district, he is a national security problem and an embarassment to the Republican Party. He has had two strong conservative challengers in the last two Primary elections, but has defeated them. He outspent the first one by something like 20 to 1. He outspent the second, stronger challenger by 10 to 1. He was able to put a bunch of outright lies together in the last 2 weeks of the campaign and put them all over radio and TV. The challenger couldn't begin to counter that. That's why YOU and everyone reading this needs to go to www.votegraf.com and help the campaign by donating something to it. You can help send a message to the powerful groups in Washington who materially benefit from our unsecured borders by removing Kolbe from office.
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posted on
05/31/2005 7:59:27 PM PDT
by
Spiff
(Don't believe everything you think.)
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