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(Senate ) Compromise could hurt Democrats in battle over Supreme Court
Kansas City Star ^ | Sat, May. 28, 2005 | DICK POLMAN Knight Ridder Newspapers

Posted on 05/28/2005 7:36:14 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: Archon of the East
So how is Ginsberg's health anyway?

Here's a funny link in that regard:

http://www.texastravesty.com/content.php?issueNumber=2004_10&story=ginsberg

41 posted on 05/28/2005 10:23:17 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: ModelBreaker

Funny Link Bump


42 posted on 05/28/2005 11:22:28 PM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Wearing My 'Jammies Proudly)
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Also, the Democrats may have boxed themselves in. Last week, in exchange for agreeing to stop filibustering three lower-court Bush nominees whom they had tagged as extremists, Democrats promised they'd use the tactic only in "extraordinary circumstances." That phrase could haunt them down the road, because it arguably sets the bar higher than it was before.

Many analysts are asking: How can Democrats credibly invoke "extraordinary circumstances" against a conservative nominee for the Supreme Court - after having just agreed to stop filibustering an appeals-court nominee (Janice Rogers Brown) who once assailed FDR's New Deal as a "socialist revolution," and after having agreed to stop blocking another nominee (William Pryor) who believes that the 1973 Roe v. Wade abortion ruling was an "abomination"?

What an interesting idea. It certainly makes sense. Bush just better not make the mistake of his father or Eisenhower.

I am hoping and praying we get one moderate or liberal to retire this year in addition to Rehnquist.


43 posted on 05/29/2005 12:04:14 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: Txsleuth

good grief that is good thinking.

TX has a brilliant idea of actually putting up one of the judges they let through this time for the SCOTUS.


44 posted on 05/29/2005 12:06:08 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: rwfromkansas
Many analysts are asking: How can Democrats credibly invoke "extraordinary circumstances" against a conservative nominee for the Supreme Court - after having just agreed to stop filibustering an appeals-court nominee (Janice Rogers Brown)

The dems do not feel the need to be "credible", or consistent, or rational. No one who watched them lie over and over again and trash the reputations of Brown and Owens could think that "credibility" or any sense of decency will stop them.

45 posted on 05/29/2005 2:42:51 AM PDT by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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To: ModelBreaker
LOL! That is too funny, but also so indicative of judicial activist's and sad. I have a feeling that she'll purposely live forever or at least until an ultra progressive becomes President
46 posted on 05/29/2005 4:53:04 AM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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Is it just me, or does Lindsey Graham really look like a pre-operative transexual?


47 posted on 05/29/2005 5:00:02 AM PDT by Reform4Bush
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To: Tacis

Graham has said he and DeWine will change.


48 posted on 05/29/2005 5:04:04 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
. . . John Paul Stevens (age 85, a moderate) . . .

Surprised they didn't label him a conservative. If you're going to lie, lie big.

49 posted on 05/29/2005 5:28:43 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: nwrep
For all the hoopla about being a Republican, Ike was a social liberal. In fact, it wasn't a given that he would run as an "R". Plus, at that time, the Republican party, as it was dominated by the striped-pant, Rockefeller bunch, was the liberal party. Don't forget that JFK's SC appointment (White) was one of the most conservative justices on the bench for a generation, and dissented in Roe v Wade.

You're right. Also if you compare four Truman nominees - Vinson, Clark, Burton and Minton to five Ike's nominees - Warren, Harlan, Brennan, Whittaker and Stewart you'll see that Truman's nominees were probably more conservative than Ike's (espacially Vinson and Clark). None of Ike's five was a conservatist, even Harlan (who was very often labeled as one) was simply a moderate who refused to accept the "incorporation doctrine" (although compared to an average Warren court justice he was probably like Clarence Thomas).

50 posted on 05/29/2005 5:31:24 AM PDT by Tarkin (St. Maximilian Kolbe (1894-1941))
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To: ModelBreaker
The possible election of Kerry has not deterred Scalia from his thrice-daily trips to McDonald's and frequent joyrides in his sports car.

Brilliant :-).

51 posted on 05/29/2005 5:50:46 AM PDT by Tarkin (St. Maximilian Kolbe (1894-1941))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
How will the Dims reject President Bush's nomination of Owen, Pryor, and/or Brown to the Supreme Court having just witnessed their approval without invoking the "extroardinary circumstances" option of their own agreement?

Note to Dims: don't play poker with Dubya.

52 posted on 05/29/2005 6:00:12 AM PDT by Thom Pain
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To: Txsleuth
How in the heck could the dems use the "extraordinary circumstances" excuse on her anymore?

Because, as true Marxists, they deploy language as a weapon.

Every single one of their supporters will back their upcoming filibusters, because they know full well that they made the "deal" with their fingers crossed, which is how they all go through life.

And when the Republicans whine about the Democrats "breaking their word", it will only make them look weak and stupid.

The type of politics going on in the Senate is winner-take-all, loser pays.

The Democrats are winning.

And the Republicans, as usual, are going to pay.

53 posted on 05/29/2005 6:01:50 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God)
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To: muawiyah

I am more thsan just a bit tired of the lunatic Far Right's whining about fairness' requiring an up-or-down, Senate-floor vote on judicial nominees. All that fairness requires is playing by the existing rules. The existing rules allow use of a fillibuster on judicial nominations.

Neither your highly vaunted "fairness" nor the United States Constitution requires an up-or-down vote on the Senate floor on these nominees.

Additionally, conservatives are the last people with a right to be whining about fairness on judicial nominees as a result of their using the then-existing rules to deny up-or-down, Senate-floor votes for dozens of Clinton Administration judicial nominees then changing the rules they had used once a Republican had been elected pResident.

Finally, let me point out that exercising the Nuclear Option to change the senate rules will require an "unfair" breaking of the Senate rules on rules changes.


54 posted on 05/29/2005 7:17:21 AM PDT by MikalD1313
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To: konaice
For real? With assassins? With bullets?

Look, the Liberals are desperate. They want to keep the holocaust rolling so we must be prepared for them to stop at nothing.

55 posted on 05/29/2005 8:40:14 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: MikalD1313

Bye


56 posted on 05/29/2005 8:42:49 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (I don't drink and FReep...it just looks that way)
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To: MikalD1313
Look, in taking issue with you I'd like to point out that Conservatives and Republicans are the only ones with a right to take issue with the Democrats and their running dog lackey RINOs.

You're sure not going to see any Democrats taking issue with the Democrats are you?

Rule changes be damned ~ simply expel people who won't go along from the Senate.

Now there's a rule ~ that the Senate is in charge of who can or cannot attend and vote.

57 posted on 05/29/2005 8:48:11 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Tarkin

Do you think the Ginsberg article deserves a thread of its own?


58 posted on 05/29/2005 9:14:45 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: ModelBreaker

Most definitely!!!


59 posted on 05/29/2005 9:34:10 AM PDT by Tarkin (St. Maximilian Kolbe (1894-1941))
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To: ErnBatavia; MikalD1313; MeekOneGOP

MikalD1313 seems to be an interesting poster....seems to need some examination....


60 posted on 05/29/2005 11:07:17 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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