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(Senate ) Compromise could hurt Democrats in battle over Supreme Court
Kansas City Star ^ | Sat, May. 28, 2005 | DICK POLMAN Knight Ridder Newspapers

Posted on 05/28/2005 7:36:14 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

PHILADELPHIA - (KRT) - This summer, Washington may well vie with Hollywood for the biggest blockbuster. The mother of all political battles, over the future of the U.S. Supreme Court, is drawing near.

With Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist seriously ill - in fact, with eight of the nine justices over age 65 - the odds are high that at least one job will open for the first time in 11 years. And that will unleash passions on the left and right, in the first confirmation showdown of the Internet era, with blogs and Web sites stoking the ideological warfare 24/7.

Anyone tapped by President Bush to fill a vacancy will be forced into the maelstrom. Nevertheless, Bush seems poised to get what he wants - to accentuate the court's rightward tilt, potentially to reshape the bench as no president has done since Franklin D. Roosevelt.

That's the bottom line, despite a Senate deal last week that seemed - at first glance, anyway - to be a victory for the chamber's Democratic minority.

Under the deal, Democrats can still stage filibusters against Bush nominees - a parliamentary tactic that allows the president's foes to kill his nominees with endless debate, unless 60 of the 100 senators agree to shut it down. Religious-right leaders are apoplectic; they say the 44 Democrats have retained the power to block the kinds of conservatives who would revolutionize the high court.

Tony Perkins said that, when he heard about the deal, "I wanted to cry." Gary Bauer said, "I felt I'd been punched in the stomach." James Dobson said, "I went to bed and pulled the covers up over my ears."

But these Bush allies - who fervently seek a high court that will end legal abortion and lower the wall between church and state - may be needlessly alarmed. Legal scholars and political analysts argue that the deal is not so great for the Democrats, and that it will hardly deter a president who is loath to compromise on his signature quest to reshape the court.

"The bottom line is, Bush still has the upper hand," said analyst Alan Abramowitz, a court-watcher at Emory University in Atlanta. "His general attitude is, `Go for broke.' He's not going to pull back and nominate a moderate to replace Rehnquist. I think he would actually enjoy a big fight with the Democrats.

"Remember, he still has 55 Senate Republicans who can change the Senate rules and end filibusters entirely," by detonating the so-called nuclear option. "They can and they will."

Also, the Democrats may have boxed themselves in. Last week, in exchange for agreeing to stop filibustering three lower-court Bush nominees whom they had tagged as extremists, Democrats promised they'd use the tactic only in "extraordinary circumstances." That phrase could haunt them down the road, because it arguably sets the bar higher than it was before.

Many analysts are asking: How can Democrats credibly invoke "extraordinary circumstances" against a conservative nominee for the Supreme Court - after having just agreed to stop filibustering an appeals-court nominee (Janice Rogers Brown) who once assailed FDR's New Deal as a "socialist revolution," and after having agreed to stop blocking another nominee (William Pryor) who believes that the 1973 Roe v. Wade abortion ruling was an "abomination"?

It would appear that the Democrats, by lifting blockades against Brown and Pryor, can no longer reasonably cite a nominee's conservative ideology as grounds for a filibuster. Some Senate Republicans are already making this argument (and threatening the nuclear option if Democrats invoke ideology), but a number of Democratic-friendly commentators also are saying that the Democrats have been effectively squeezed.

Witness T.A. Frank, in a blog sponsored by the New Republic. He said that, under the deal, "only the certifiably insane can possibly be blocked." The bottom line: "If (Bush) nominates, say, an Irish setter who runs up and bites (GOP Sen.) Orrin Hatch in the leg, then Democrats will be allowed to play the bad guys and employ their filibuster. Otherwise, they'd better hold off, since, if they don't, Republicans might have to take the filibuster away for real."

But if all this is true, why are the religious-right leaders so upset about the Senate deal?

"Some of the anger is genuine, but knowing them as well as I do, some of it is staged," said Marshall Wittmann, a former lobbyist for the Christian Coalition. "They are staging a tantrum in order to tell the White House, `We're giving you a taste of what our wrath will be if you betray us by choosing a high-court nominee who isn't our kind of conservative.'"

The religious right - which, according to Wittmann, now constitutes 40 percent of the GOP coalition - has been unhappy with the Rehnquist court, despite the fact that seven of the nine justices are Republican appointees. Among other things, this court has repeatedly declined to overturn Roe; ruled that juvenile criminals may not be executed; decreed that the private sexual conduct of gays should not be criminalized; and has refused to hear numerous cases seeking to breach the church-state barrier.

Bush is sensitive to Christian conservative concerns. Geoffrey Stone, a law professor at the University of Chicago, said: "Bush probably believes it is in his political interest to satisfy his base by stuffing a conservative nominee down the Democrats' throats, basically telling Democrats, `I appoint, now you play dead.' Force them into a filibuster, depict it as an unfair obstruction, then break it."

Stone also said Bush could outfox Democrats by choosing "responsible and thoughtful" conservatives who would test the Democrats' willingness to filibuster. He cited federal appeals judge Michael McConnell, who has long denounced abortion-rights rulings but whose intellect has been praised by liberal academics.

Another rumored front-runner is federal appeals judge J. Michael Luttig, who in 1998 ruled against late-term abortions, and, a year earlier, ruled that teens seeking abortions had to tell their parents first. It's no wonder that Eleanor Smeal, president of the Feminist Majority Foundation, is already insisting that threats to "women's rights" should be considered an "extraordinary circumstance."

But Mark Tushnet, a Georgetown University law professor and former Supreme Court clerk, said: "Abortion alone is not enough of a reason for the Democrats to filibuster. They lost the November election. Therefore, they shouldn't expect to get a `pro-choice' person on the Supreme Court. Their interest groups know that, but they have to keep raising money."

That's smart, considering that the expected Rehnquist vacancy is merely the opening round. The court's philosophical makeup won't be greatly altered if a new conservative takes Rehnquist's slot. The real fight may occur if or when Bush nominates someone to replace John Paul Stevens (age 85, a moderate), or Sandra Day O'Connor (age 75, a swing vote).

Wittmann said, "If Bush was to choose someone truly controversial as an O'Connor replacement - like maybe the equivalent of (stymied U.N. nominee) John Bolton - that's when the Democrats will claim `extraordinary circumstance.' Everyone in Washington knows it."

Yet, amidst all the three-dimensional chess, the irony is that nobody knows how justices will perform until they don the robes. Republican President Dwight Eisenhower named Earl Warren and William Brennan, who helped tilt the court leftward for a generation. President Bush is generally loath to admit error, but Eisenhower, when asked whether he had ever made mistakes, famously replied, "Yes, two. And they're on the Supreme Court."

For that reason alone, Bush's conservative followers dearly hope he will leave no room for compromise.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; filibuster; judicialnominees; judiciary; rehnquist; scotus; senate; ussenate
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To: Archon of the East
So how is Ginsberg's health anyway?

Here's a funny link in that regard:

http://www.texastravesty.com/content.php?issueNumber=2004_10&story=ginsberg

41 posted on 05/28/2005 10:23:17 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: ModelBreaker

Funny Link Bump


42 posted on 05/28/2005 11:22:28 PM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Wearing My 'Jammies Proudly)
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To: All

Also, the Democrats may have boxed themselves in. Last week, in exchange for agreeing to stop filibustering three lower-court Bush nominees whom they had tagged as extremists, Democrats promised they'd use the tactic only in "extraordinary circumstances." That phrase could haunt them down the road, because it arguably sets the bar higher than it was before.

Many analysts are asking: How can Democrats credibly invoke "extraordinary circumstances" against a conservative nominee for the Supreme Court - after having just agreed to stop filibustering an appeals-court nominee (Janice Rogers Brown) who once assailed FDR's New Deal as a "socialist revolution," and after having agreed to stop blocking another nominee (William Pryor) who believes that the 1973 Roe v. Wade abortion ruling was an "abomination"?

What an interesting idea. It certainly makes sense. Bush just better not make the mistake of his father or Eisenhower.

I am hoping and praying we get one moderate or liberal to retire this year in addition to Rehnquist.


43 posted on 05/29/2005 12:04:14 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: Txsleuth

good grief that is good thinking.

TX has a brilliant idea of actually putting up one of the judges they let through this time for the SCOTUS.


44 posted on 05/29/2005 12:06:08 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: rwfromkansas
Many analysts are asking: How can Democrats credibly invoke "extraordinary circumstances" against a conservative nominee for the Supreme Court - after having just agreed to stop filibustering an appeals-court nominee (Janice Rogers Brown)

The dems do not feel the need to be "credible", or consistent, or rational. No one who watched them lie over and over again and trash the reputations of Brown and Owens could think that "credibility" or any sense of decency will stop them.

45 posted on 05/29/2005 2:42:51 AM PDT by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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To: ModelBreaker
LOL! That is too funny, but also so indicative of judicial activist's and sad. I have a feeling that she'll purposely live forever or at least until an ultra progressive becomes President
46 posted on 05/29/2005 4:53:04 AM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: All

Is it just me, or does Lindsey Graham really look like a pre-operative transexual?


47 posted on 05/29/2005 5:00:02 AM PDT by Reform4Bush
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To: Tacis

Graham has said he and DeWine will change.


48 posted on 05/29/2005 5:04:04 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
. . . John Paul Stevens (age 85, a moderate) . . .

Surprised they didn't label him a conservative. If you're going to lie, lie big.

49 posted on 05/29/2005 5:28:43 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: nwrep
For all the hoopla about being a Republican, Ike was a social liberal. In fact, it wasn't a given that he would run as an "R". Plus, at that time, the Republican party, as it was dominated by the striped-pant, Rockefeller bunch, was the liberal party. Don't forget that JFK's SC appointment (White) was one of the most conservative justices on the bench for a generation, and dissented in Roe v Wade.

You're right. Also if you compare four Truman nominees - Vinson, Clark, Burton and Minton to five Ike's nominees - Warren, Harlan, Brennan, Whittaker and Stewart you'll see that Truman's nominees were probably more conservative than Ike's (espacially Vinson and Clark). None of Ike's five was a conservatist, even Harlan (who was very often labeled as one) was simply a moderate who refused to accept the "incorporation doctrine" (although compared to an average Warren court justice he was probably like Clarence Thomas).

50 posted on 05/29/2005 5:31:24 AM PDT by Tarkin (St. Maximilian Kolbe (1894-1941))
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To: ModelBreaker
The possible election of Kerry has not deterred Scalia from his thrice-daily trips to McDonald's and frequent joyrides in his sports car.

Brilliant :-).

51 posted on 05/29/2005 5:50:46 AM PDT by Tarkin (St. Maximilian Kolbe (1894-1941))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
How will the Dims reject President Bush's nomination of Owen, Pryor, and/or Brown to the Supreme Court having just witnessed their approval without invoking the "extroardinary circumstances" option of their own agreement?

Note to Dims: don't play poker with Dubya.

52 posted on 05/29/2005 6:00:12 AM PDT by Thom Pain
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To: Txsleuth
How in the heck could the dems use the "extraordinary circumstances" excuse on her anymore?

Because, as true Marxists, they deploy language as a weapon.

Every single one of their supporters will back their upcoming filibusters, because they know full well that they made the "deal" with their fingers crossed, which is how they all go through life.

And when the Republicans whine about the Democrats "breaking their word", it will only make them look weak and stupid.

The type of politics going on in the Senate is winner-take-all, loser pays.

The Democrats are winning.

And the Republicans, as usual, are going to pay.

53 posted on 05/29/2005 6:01:50 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God)
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To: muawiyah

I am more thsan just a bit tired of the lunatic Far Right's whining about fairness' requiring an up-or-down, Senate-floor vote on judicial nominees. All that fairness requires is playing by the existing rules. The existing rules allow use of a fillibuster on judicial nominations.

Neither your highly vaunted "fairness" nor the United States Constitution requires an up-or-down vote on the Senate floor on these nominees.

Additionally, conservatives are the last people with a right to be whining about fairness on judicial nominees as a result of their using the then-existing rules to deny up-or-down, Senate-floor votes for dozens of Clinton Administration judicial nominees then changing the rules they had used once a Republican had been elected pResident.

Finally, let me point out that exercising the Nuclear Option to change the senate rules will require an "unfair" breaking of the Senate rules on rules changes.


54 posted on 05/29/2005 7:17:21 AM PDT by MikalD1313
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To: konaice
For real? With assassins? With bullets?

Look, the Liberals are desperate. They want to keep the holocaust rolling so we must be prepared for them to stop at nothing.

55 posted on 05/29/2005 8:40:14 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: MikalD1313

Bye


56 posted on 05/29/2005 8:42:49 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (I don't drink and FReep...it just looks that way)
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To: MikalD1313
Look, in taking issue with you I'd like to point out that Conservatives and Republicans are the only ones with a right to take issue with the Democrats and their running dog lackey RINOs.

You're sure not going to see any Democrats taking issue with the Democrats are you?

Rule changes be damned ~ simply expel people who won't go along from the Senate.

Now there's a rule ~ that the Senate is in charge of who can or cannot attend and vote.

57 posted on 05/29/2005 8:48:11 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Tarkin

Do you think the Ginsberg article deserves a thread of its own?


58 posted on 05/29/2005 9:14:45 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: ModelBreaker

Most definitely!!!


59 posted on 05/29/2005 9:34:10 AM PDT by Tarkin (St. Maximilian Kolbe (1894-1941))
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To: ErnBatavia; MikalD1313; MeekOneGOP

MikalD1313 seems to be an interesting poster....seems to need some examination....


60 posted on 05/29/2005 11:07:17 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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