Extreme Hypocrisy: The Sex Lives of Republicans (Niman Alert Part 1)

mediastudy.com ^ | 5-26-05 | Michael Niman

[Lazamataz]

Not nearly as hyperventilating and drama-queenish as Michael Morford.

I give it a 2 on the pendaticmeter.

[Zeroisanumber]

And Ted Bundy was a rising star amongst California Democrats before his predilection for killing young women came to light. Perversion is as much an abberation in a political party as it is in a society; just because there are a few perverts in the (100+ million strong) Republican party doesn't mean that the Republican platform is undermined.

The one not-so-startling revalation in this article is that rings true to me is that some of the most virulent gay bashers tend to either be closeted, self-hating homosexuals or people who are afraid that they might be gay.

[Admin Moderator]

It's like you knew the posters future.

Da boss issues us a Ouija board, crystal ball, and tarot deck.

[ohioWfan]

Excellent point!

It is precisely BECAUSE we are sinners that we need to continue to insist on moral behavior. It is not natural to us (the Founding Fathers understood this).

The presence of sinners in the Republican party does not negate the morality of Republican standards. It proves the need for them.

[CBart95]

Oh Please. Just flush.

[ASA Vet]

Da boss issues us a Ouija board, crystal ball, and tarot deck.

And a couple extra buttons on the FR tool bar.

[ohioWfan]

I'm sure that means something to you, but would you mind explaining your post?

[Gunrunner2]

>>You can acknowlege the imperfections in yourself and others, but promote an idealized goal. <<

Not hypocrisy but idealism. Strive for the best but acknowledge you have feet of clay.

[Gunrunner2]

Excuse me. . .what?

[arnoldfwilliams]

Two directions are options for one's moral character: Improve or Degenerate. You can acknowlege the imperfections in yourself and others, but promote an idealized goal. Or you can decide that since perfect is not an option, I'm going to get reaaaal dirty. The former is called a hypocrit these days. The latter, a considerate liberal.

Thanks for a good, concise summary. Being lectured on sin by someone who does not recognize the sinfulness of the deed is a little galling: all he recognizes is the vice of hypocrisy. What's worse, of course, is that hypocrisy is a social virtue: upholding the right standard even though you can't fully comply with it yourself for the encouragement of others to do so is a good thing to do. It doesn't negate the problems you have, but it does try to prevent them from spreading.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

Da boss issues us a Ouija board, crystal ball, and tarot deck.

You have to buy your own chicken entrails and tea leaves?

Now, that is one mean boss...

[Psycho_Bunny]

I hope the person who put these words together doesn't tell people he's "A Writer".

In the style of a mediocre 7th-grader, he's thrown a few shocking examples together, failed to make a point beyond the examples themselves, and then concludes they paint a picture larger than is intellectually defensible. 

While there are many conservative "writers" out there who do the same thing, leftist intellectuals seem to excel at this style.  I don't believe it's because leftists are any dumber than conservatives but rather, they tend to be far more tolerant of sloppy logic so long as it justifies their prejudices and pre-conceived notions.

Mostly because they value feeling above thought.

[Smartaleck]

"Statistics" can be made to lie, and as I am sure you are well aware. In order to see if the quoted statistic is valid, you would also need to know how many "couples" in Mass live together without being married."

Great observation and your suspicions are correct.
The highest concentration of unmarried couples is in the West, mainly due to CA and Alaska.
Followed by the NorthEast.
The South had the lowest percentage of unmarried couples living together.

The average for the US is about 9.1% and MA had 9.9% putting them in the above average number of housholds. (DC was the worst with 21% !!!!!)

When it comes to "same sex" couples living together the average is 1% for the country....and the BLUE NorthEast leads the nation. MA has about 1.3%, again above the average. DC has 5.1%.

Unmarried couples% US average 9.1%
CT-9.2
ME-12.2
MA-9.9
NH-11
NJ-8.5
NY-10.3
PA-8.8
RI-10.5
VT-12.5

AL-6.1
AR-6.7
DE-10.7 Blue
DC-20.8 Blue
FL-10.4
GA-8.6
KY-7.7
LA-9.4
MD-10 Blue
MS-8.2
NC-8
OK-6.9
SC-8.3
TN-7.4
TX-7.6
VA-8.1
WV-8

http://www.census.gov/prod/2003pubs/censr-5.pdf

[dighton]

True and fitting -- Hypocrisy is the homage which vice renders to virtue -- but it's La Rochefoucauld, not Wilde, who also wrote famous words on the subject:

I hope you have not been leading a double life, pretending to be wicked and being really good all the time. That would be hypocrisy.

-- The Importance of Being Earnest.

[Bluchers Elephant]

Idealism would be when we acknowledge our flaws and work to pursue an idealized goal. If we deliberately hide flaws and failures while promoting an idealized goal then there is a problem. And it doesn't matter who the hypocrites are, us or them, its sickening either way.
If we are to promote a high moral standard and do not hold to that high standard (and I don't mean don't fail, I mean noticeably and publicly acknowledge our failures and accept consequences, self imposed if needs be, for them) then our example is worse than if no such attempt is made.

[Luke21]

Ted Bundy was a Republican from Washington State. John Gacy was a Democrat.

[Zeroisanumber]

Yeah, someone pointed that out in a letter to me earlier. I'd apparently been misinformed. Thanks for the correction.

[T. Jefferson]

When the most prominent liberal newmen (Rather, Isikoff, et al) fabricate stories out of thin air to bash republicans, it's only reasonable to assume this no name lib reporter's article is full of lies and exaggerations. I believe nothing at face value spoken or written by a democrat unless it provides irrefutable fact checking.

Any organization with 100 million members like the Republican party have a few bad apples. However, Republicans arrest and convict our problem politicians, while Democrats worship their sexual predators and make them Presidential candidates. There's not enough bandwidth in the world to cover Democrat deviants and their escapades, who wear their sins like a badge of honor.

[nicollo]

Perhaps this from La Rochefoucauld would also play well to this article:

If we had no faults of our own, we should not take so much pleasure in noticing those in others.

BigB: I wonder if this thread might not qualify for one of your REPUBLICAN PARTY REPTILE pings... LOL!

[King Prout]

This was the same Dr. Hager who wrote that women suffering from PMS need only to turn to the bible for help. In his private practice he refused to prescribe birth control medication to unmarried women. As a Republican political activist Hager opposed the sale of birth control drugs he identified as abortifacients. In essence, by putting an avowed opponent of reproductive health in charge of reproductive health drugs, Bush followed suit on his four-year track record of putting wolves in charge of hen houses.

non-sequitur