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PETER PAUL AND HILLARY: No. 15 - If Rosen Didn't Do It, Who Did It?
Peter Paul, documents | 5-27-04 | dfu

Posted on 05/27/2005 8:19:51 PM PDT by doug from upland

www.HillCAP.org

INTRO and EPISODES 1-10

11- $2,000 Returned, We Keep the 2 Mil, Meet Bill on AF One with More
12 – Hillary’s Laundromat at 88 3rd Avenue, Brooklyn, NY
13 - How Is David Rosen Like Sally Field?
14 - Lying Chart of Sandler Was Like Unwelcome Visiting Relative

NOTE: This is the 15th episode in a series of stories regarding the events surrounding Hillary Clinton’s 2000 Hollywood fundraiser, and the business relationship of entrepreneur Peter Paul, the impeached William Jefferson Clinton, and Hillary Rodham Clinton, perpetrator of the largest campaign finance fraud in the history of Western civilization.

Settle down, everyone. Some of you are disappointed and astounded that David Rosen was acquitted in Los Angeles Federal District Court this morning. Don’t get excited. As most of you know, this happens all the time in Los Angeles. This is only one of the battles in the war.

From my perspective, our documentary and Peter Paul’s civil case are now even more important if the truth is ever going to be told. Remember that in the 2000 election battle, the Florida Supreme Court decision was only a temporary victory for the forces of darkness.

Paul’s civil case will be proceeding when Hillary’s last ludicrous appeal is finally tossed. I recommend that you read that document.

Rosen was the sacrificial lamb that luckily avoided the slaughter. A crime was still committed. Maybe some of the jurors didn’t pay enough attention. That’s hard to do when you sleep in the jury box.

We still have a whodunit here. There is the outline of a body on the floor and yellow police tape. The jury decided that it wasn’t the finance director who did it in the SLM office with the fax machine. Who could have done it?

Was it the colorful guy with the checkbook at Spago? Was it the gay guy with the Porsche at the afternoon tea? Was it the strip club owner with the pasties in Chicago? Was it the Japanese illegal donor who did it with a bag of money at the concert? Was it the Sgt. Schultz treasurer with the phony data in the party office? Or, was it the lamp-throwing screaming woman in the black pantsuit who did it with the FBI files hidden in the stolen sofa?

Despite overwhelming evidence, a Los Angeles jury once again upheld its less than stellar reputation. I had predicted a conviction if the jury had a 180 I.Q. That was for all of them, not individually. Collectively, they did not have a 180 I.Q. In fairness, they would have made the 180 mark if you added in the two alternates. That would have put the jury at about 250, which is in the range of William James Sidis, the most intelligent man to ever inhabit our planet.

There are some things the trial testimony revealed that will be very helpful in the civil suit.

- False reports were filed with the FEC. That is not in dispute.
- False reports have never been corrected.
- Stan Lee Media was not the underwriter of the gala.
- The concert alone is recognized to have cost more than $600,000, although it was really over $800,000.

The witnesses from whom we heard, the evidence presented in court, and other evidence not yet presented in court, are going to make the civil suit very interesting indeed. Some people, such as Hillary Clinton are going to have some explaining to do. This time it will be under oath. This time mouthpiece Howard Wolfson can't speak and spin for her.

Will anyone be prosecuted for perjury in this trial? Although I couldn’t see his hands all of the time while he testified, Rosen must have been crossing his fingers while answering many of the questions. Either attorney Rick Madden or David Rosen was lying regarding a meeting that was either held or not held in Paul’s office. Madden testified that he met with Paul and Rosen to make it absolutely clear that Paul, not Stan Lee or Stan Lee Media, was the underwriter of the event. Rosen said that meeting never happened. One of those people lied on the stand.

Paul’s civil suit was served on campaign treasurer Andrew Grossman prior to his final amended filing on July 30, 2001. Hillary was served through attorney David Kendall prior to that filing. All of the defendants were served by July 11. Included were cancelled checks and information necessary to make a more accurate report to the FEC. Nevertheless, a fraudulent report was again submitted to the FEC.

The final FEC report (not the final amended one) was filed as required by Jan 31, 2001. Paul was astonished when he saw it online in mid-February of 2001. He was not listed, and his almost $2 million in-kind contribution was not listed. Essentially, the Hillary campaign was making him a co-conspirator in the campaign finance fraud. As a donor, the largest donor in history, he wanted it reported properly. Defense attorney Paul Sandler showed us on the screen in court that the donor had that responsibility.

Because of the testimony in the Rosen trial, it will now be more difficult for Hillary and her cohorts to lie in the civil case. People are on record and under oath. The next trial will focus on the person whom they would not go after in this trial – Hillary Rodham Clinton, the junior senator from New York. Her day of reckoning will come. In open court, she is going to have to explain the facsimile request for another 100 grand of shakedown cash 11 days after she publicly disavowed Paul and returned his $2,000.

Ray Reggie testified that he heard Aaron Tonken and Rosen complaining about the cost of the production by Gary Smith, who was forced on them by Hillary herself. Paul wanted to hire Dick Clark. Yes, Hillary knew that the concert alone was well in excess of the total that was reported.

Sleep soundly, keep your powder dry, and get ready for the next battle. Unlike the guy in the slow white Bronco who claimed he would get the real killer, this time there is a tenacious and determined man who was victimized by the Clintons and who will not spend his time playing golf. Peter Paul is going to find the real perpetrator. The drops from this bloody glove lead to a 5500-square foot white Dutch Colonial house not far from the Naval Observatory in Washington, D.C.

Virtus
5-27-05
Doug from Upland


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008willbetoolate; beastwatch; botoxedalltohell; conspiringclintons; davidrosen; findhillarysthesis; fraudlady; hillaryscandals; hitlery; stophillary; stophitlery; whoishillary
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1 posted on 05/27/2005 8:19:51 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: Blurblogger

Ping away.


2 posted on 05/27/2005 8:20:09 PM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: Congressman Billybob; Buckhead; Howlin; Nick Danger; Alamo-Girl; Mia T; Peach; backhoe; ...


"I'm Inspector Clouseau. Mrs. Clinton, your papers please"


DFU "Peter Paul & Hillary" PING!

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3 posted on 05/27/2005 8:27:47 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: Blurblogger

Thanks for the ping!


4 posted on 05/27/2005 8:32:00 PM PDT by upchuck (If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: doug from upland
Is this tantamount to a poor prosecution, nitwit jury, or both?  Ala OJ or soon to be MJ?
5 posted on 05/27/2005 8:38:55 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: doug from upland

What about Reggie's tape? I know that it wasn't used for this trial, but isn't it likely to be used in other trials?


6 posted on 05/27/2005 8:39:37 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Blurblogger

Thanks for the ping. :-)


7 posted on 05/27/2005 8:40:07 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: doug from upland

Here is all you need to know to see how this civil suit could turn out. Pay attention to the dates:

 What did she know, and when did she know it?


8 posted on 05/27/2005 8:40:47 PM PDT by Nick Danger (www.iranfree.org)
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To: doug from upland
If Rosen Didn't Do It, Who Did It?

You've heard of victimless crimes? This was clearly a perpless crime.

9 posted on 05/27/2005 8:47:13 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Nick Danger
Thanks for the exhibits. That will probably be a separate episode. I still don't understand why Grossman has never been charged.

The most damaging count in this trial was the third one, which got thrown out. Every one of the conspirators was on notice with documents before the final amended filing.

10 posted on 05/27/2005 8:50:16 PM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: doug from upland
Who did it?

Well, golly gee, we know it could not have been the Hildebeast... the judge said so.

(/venomous sarcasm)

11 posted on 05/27/2005 8:51:20 PM PDT by TheGrimReaper ("Virtue begat Prosperity, and the daughter killed the mother". - Cotton Mather, 1720.)
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To: nopardons

I need help on the tape. I could not determine why it was not used.


12 posted on 05/27/2005 8:52:07 PM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: TheGrimReaper

No incriminating evidence was presented against Hillary. Keep in mind that civil trials sometimes lead to criminal trials.


13 posted on 05/27/2005 8:52:56 PM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: doug from upland

I can't figure that out either. That's WHY I asked you.


14 posted on 05/27/2005 8:56:25 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: doug from upland

Sandy Burglar has the tape , it is right in plain sight on top of his TV[in the magnetic field] ,... if you see him at Radio Shack ,he's buying a bulk eraser


15 posted on 05/27/2005 8:57:46 PM PDT by Dad yer funny
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To: All
Doug from Upland, if Peter Paul does not nail me in the civil trial, you had better dispose of your assets and flee the country.


16 posted on 05/27/2005 9:03:56 PM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: doug from upland


The Witch skates again ...
17 posted on 05/27/2005 9:03:59 PM PDT by John Lenin (There is no such thing as a church approved abortion)
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To: doug from upland

"... she is going to have to explain the facsimile request for another 100 grand of shakedown cash 11 days after she publicly disavowed Paul and returned his $2,000."


This one is just too easy .. "she publicaly disavowed" - but Bill didn't! It'll be one of her famous - "I was not aware" lies.


18 posted on 05/27/2005 9:11:49 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: doug from upland
Can we reasonably expect that Hillary will have to testify in her civil trial? I really want to see what happens when she puts her hand on a Bible.

Mr. Paul says she knew of the fraud - beyond any doubt. Do you think her attorney can keep her off the stand?

19 posted on 05/27/2005 9:13:32 PM PDT by TheGrimReaper ("Virtue begat Prosperity, and the daughter killed the mother". - Cotton Mather, 1720.)
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To: CyberAnt

It doesn't matter if Bill publicly disavowed. It was her campaign. The additional shakedown money was sent for her campaign to the Working Families Party.


20 posted on 05/27/2005 9:13:34 PM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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