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Bush, Other Top Officials Should Face Torture Probes, Says Amnesty; Urges Arrests if Warranted
One world ^ | May 26 2005 | Abid Aslam

Posted on 05/27/2005 2:31:20 PM PDT by Dog

WASHINGTON, D.C., May 26 (OneWorld) - Rights watchdog Amnesty International urged foreign governments Wednesday to investigate and prosecute President George W. Bush much as they once did former Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet.

''If the United States permits the architects of torture policy to get off scot-free, then other nations should step into the breach,'' William Schulz, executive director of Amnesty International USA, said in a statement launching Amnesty's annual report.

Bush is among a dozen former or current U.S. officials who should be probed by foreign governments because Washington has failed to conduct ''a genuinely independent and comprehensive investigation'' of torture allegations against U.S. troops, commanders, and their civilian overseers, Schulz said.

Others on the Amnesty list of potential targets for investigation and prosecution include Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, and former Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) chief George Tenet.

''If the U.S. government continues to shirk its responsibility, Amnesty International calls on foreign governments to uphold their obligations under international law by investigating all senior U.S. officials involved in the torture scandal,'' Schulz said.

''If those investigations support prosecution, the governments should arrest any official who enters their territory and begin legal proceedings against them,'' he added. ''The apparent high-level architects of torture should think twice before planning their next vacation to places like Acapulco or the French Riviera because they may find themselves under arrest as Augusto Pinochet famously did in London in 1998.''

Torture and other grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions amount to crimes against humanity and therefore all states have a responsibility to investigate and prosecute people responsible for them, Amnesty said in its 308-page report.

The U.S. government had yet to respond to the Amnesty report Wednesday but Rumsfeld and others on the Amnesty list have strongly denied that they condoned torture or did anything wrong.

Military officials and administration spokespersons have repeatedly and strenuously denied any policy promoting or tolerating torture and have said that allegations of abuses have resulted in dozens of investigations and a number of prosecutions and disciplinary actions.

Some 125 such cases have been filed, Amnesty acknowledged, but it said they have involved only soldiers and their superiors in the field and have yet to trace lines of responsibility back to Washington. Characterizing this as a refusal to investigate, Schulz said it amounted, in effect, to ''tolerance'' for torture and mistreatment and warned that it would destroy U.S. credibility when Washington assails human rights violations by other governments, like those in Syria or Egypt.

''It is the height of hypocrisy for the U.S. government itself to use the very torture techniques that it routinely condemns in other countries,'' Schulz said. ''When the U.S. government then calls upon foreign leaders to bring to justice those who commit or authorize human rights violations in their own countries, why should those foreign leaders listen?''

Amnesty's demand dovetails with a lawsuit by Human Rights First and the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) alleging that Rumsfeld and others authorized torture-like interrogation techniques by U.S. troops at U.S bases in Afghanistan, Cuba, and Iraq.

It also buttresses a campaign by non-governmental organizations demanding a full-scale independent probe of the prisoner abuse scandals modeled on the 9/11 Commission. That effort has brought together rights advocates of a liberal as well as conservative stripe, former Republican lawmakers, and retired military officers.

The call for foreign governments to take action also coincided with the release by the ACLU Wednesday of documents that it said revealed that prisoners at the U.S. base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, complained that guards mistreated the Koran and in one incident, flushed a copy of the Muslim holy book down a toilet.

The ACLU said it obtained the documents under court order from the Federal Bureau of Investigation and that they also provided accounts of beatings, sexual assaults, and hunger strikes.

The revelations follow Newsweek's recent retraction of a report saying that government investigators had corroborated almost identical incidents involving the Koran. The magazine ultimately withdrew its story saying a confidential government source no longer could be confirmed.

While Schulz singled out the United States as what he called ''a leading purveyor and practitioner'' of torture, Amnesty's report surveyed 149 countries and found that for the most part, 2004 had been a bleak year for human rights everywhere.

Amnesty also highlighted:

-- Darfur, where it said the Sudanese government generated a human rights catastrophe and the international community did too little too late to address the crisis, betraying hundreds of thousands of people.

-- Haiti, where it said individuals responsible for serious human rights violations were allowed to regain positions of power.

-- The eastern Democratic Republic of Congo, where it bemoaned the lack of an effective response to the systematic rape of tens of thousands of women, children, and babies.

-- Afghanistan, which it said slipped into a downward spiral of lawlessness and instability despite the holding of elections.

-- Reports that Russian soldiers had tortured, raped, and sexually abused Chechen women with impunity.

-- Zimbabwe, where it said the government manipulated food shortages for political reasons.

''The betrayal of human rights by governments was accompanied by increasingly horrific acts of terrorism as armed groups stooped to new levels of brutality,'' Amnesty added.


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I dare them to just try and arrest him..

They have become unhinged Amnesty International..

1 posted on 05/27/2005 2:31:20 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Dog

I think they ought to go live in the cave with their hero, Osama.


2 posted on 05/27/2005 2:32:38 PM PDT by henkster (When democrats talk of "the rich," they are referring to anyone with a private sector job.)
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To: Dog
These fools dare to compare the gulags of Russia with what is going on in Cuba...where the inmates are fed well, are allowed to have their religious readings and prayers, and where not a single one (to my knowledge) has died in captivity...at least for sure none have been intentionally put to death.

They compare that to the gulags of Russia where hundreds and hundreds of thousands were starved, brutally tortured and killed? These people are beyond the pale and themselves should face prosecution for their actions in a time of war.

3 posted on 05/27/2005 2:34:44 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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Sure, go ahead and send your biggest and best to arrest anyone, hell even me, let alone the POTUS.

I've got there amnesty right here.

4 posted on 05/27/2005 2:35:36 PM PDT by lormand (George W. Bush is saving your ass, whether you like it or not.)
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To: henkster

Treason. Yep. I call it. AI guy should be arrested. But then again , he shouldn't: insignificant pimple.


5 posted on 05/27/2005 2:36:26 PM PDT by dasboot
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To: Dog
Amnesty also highlighted: -- Darfur, where it said the Sudanese government generated a human rights catastrophe and the international community did too little too late to address the crisis, betraying hundreds of thousands of people. -- Haiti, where it said individuals responsible for serious human rights violations were allowed to regain positions of power. -- The eastern Democratic Republic of Congo, where it bemoaned the lack of an effective response to the systematic rape of tens of thousands of women, children, and babies. -- Reports that Russian soldiers had tortured, raped, and sexually abused Chechen women with impunity.

Interesting how these also-rans resulted in deaths in the hundreds of thousands more than the supposed US atrocities, yet Amnesty only mentions arresting Bush and company.

These worms are awfully brave when it comes to tough talk about an administration they know allows them to shout and lie.

6 posted on 05/27/2005 2:36:45 PM PDT by Dr.Hilarious (If Al Qaeda took over the judiciary and mainstream media, would we know the difference?)
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One World?
Abid Aslam?
That says everything I need to know.


7 posted on 05/27/2005 2:36:45 PM PDT by macrahanish #1
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There are gulags right now in North Korea that would make the old Soviet gulags seem like Club Med.

Jeff sad to say its going to take another 9/11 or bigger to shut up these whiners on the left.

8 posted on 05/27/2005 2:38:00 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Dog

They will never shut up, sad to say. Americans will take care of that, though if something larger than 9/11 happens again...guaranteed.


9 posted on 05/27/2005 2:44:01 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (Saddam: $25k to suicide bombers = BAD --- Bush: 50 mil to terrorist scum = "GOOD")
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To: Dog
I fear you are right...and that is exactly what I wrote of in my DFS book series...in the hopes of warning and laying out just such a scenario.
10 posted on 05/27/2005 2:44:51 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Dog

No, another 9/11 wouldn't shut them up, it will only strenghten their beliefs. See? We are being punished for being so bad, we brought it on ourselves, blah, blah, blah.

Thick skulls, small contents.


11 posted on 05/27/2005 2:45:00 PM PDT by henkster (When democrats talk of "the rich," they are referring to anyone with a private sector job.)
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To: Dog
These comments were made by the US head of AI who had a press conference and uttered these comments. Interestingly, the media did not give these comments much play but focused on the accusations in the report.

My sense is that the media is trying to protect AI from itself. This was probably made for fundraising, Soros money, looney left support.

They're just another activist group.

Ironically, they know that no country would do what they suggest, and if they did it could lead to a war. What idiots.
12 posted on 05/27/2005 2:48:33 PM PDT by Patriot from Philly
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Jeff sad to say its going to take another 9/11 or bigger to shut up these whiners on the left.

It wouldn't shut them up. They would quietly be happy that the U.S. got hit again. Perhaps not happy about people being killed, but definitely happy it happened to the evil Bush Administration. They'd lie low for a while, then be right back with their inane ramblings.

The words "sound" and "fury" come to mind along with something like "signifying nothing". I think it's time for this "poor player" to get off the stage.

13 posted on 05/27/2005 2:50:34 PM PDT by dannyboy72 (How long will you hold onto the rope when Liberals pull us off the cliff?)
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To: Jeff Head

You series is on my list to read on my next vacation.


14 posted on 05/27/2005 2:50:42 PM PDT by Dog
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It would only shut them up if the AI headquarters was in the strike zone or got some collateral damage.

What's that old saying about a conservative--he's a liberal that got mugged.
15 posted on 05/27/2005 2:53:21 PM PDT by Patriot from Philly
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To: Dog
Every article about Amnesty International should mention that the head of AI is a Muslim woman who is a graduate of Harvard Law School. From her, this sort of garbage is to be expected.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: "The Gunfight at Not-OK Corral"

16 posted on 05/27/2005 2:54:12 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (For copies of my speech, "Dealing with Outlaw Judges," please Freepmail me.)
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The only bright side of when the muslims actually do take over, people like this will be hobbling around on one foot and one hand... if they're lucky enough to have a head.


17 posted on 05/27/2005 2:58:19 PM PDT by hang 'em ("You can't buy the People unless yer for the People, ahuh huh ahuh" - William Jefferson Clinton)
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To: Dog
Thank you...I will be very ointerested in your thoughts on the books and their message(s).
18 posted on 05/27/2005 2:58:39 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Dog
William Schulz is an enemy of the American people and should be arrested and jailed along with the other Nazi Bit** that runs with him.

If they step foot on American soil they should be put in jail immediately as enemy combatants.

Anyone who donates to this organization is a supporter of Terrorist and is an enemy of the American people.
19 posted on 05/27/2005 3:03:10 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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I think Schultz is an American, unfortunately. I saw him make his comments on TV and there was a big American flag behind him. He heads USAAmnesty International.

He's just an irresponsible lefty. He is trying to force Congress to do an investigation and Warner probably will. That's what this is all about.

Plus the moonbats love this stuff.
20 posted on 05/27/2005 3:06:08 PM PDT by Patriot from Philly
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