[Fester Chugabrew]

Probability arguments "against" evolution (and the ones I've actually seen have been bogus) is in no way -- repeat, *no* *way* -- repeat, *NO* *WAY* -- evidence *for* "ID" or "creationism" or whatever you want to call it.

Then what are they? Further results of natural selection and random mutation?

[Ichneumon]

[Probability arguments "against" evolution (and the ones I've actually seen have been bogus) is in no way -- repeat, *no* *way* -- repeat, *NO* *WAY* -- evidence *for* "ID" or "creationism" or whatever you want to call it.]

Then what are they? Further results of natural selection and random mutation?

No, they are the results of creationists making simplistic and faulty calculations based on their poor knowledge (and in many cases, completely misunderstanding) of evolutionary biology.