Frigidaire Ovens With the Sabbath Mode Feature (G*d is in my oven)

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Please be aware that there are restrictions in the use of ovens and stoves on the Sabbath and Holidays. If you are unfamiliar with the laws of keeping food warm on the Sabbath or cooking on the Holidays, please call your Rabbi. Please note that when the Holiday and Sabbath coincide, the Sabbath laws prevail. See your owner's manual for instructions on operating the Sabbath mode. Before first use of a new oven be sure to wash the racks and interior of the oven thoroughly with warm water and soap to remove any coating oil.

COOKTOPS:

On the Sabbath, a gas flame or electric heat may not be initiated, adjusted or turned off.

On the Sabbath, a "blech" should be used to cover the flame in addition to covering the controls of the cooktop. For the gas burners and coiled electric burners, use a standard "blech". The manufacturer does not recommend putting a "blech" on the glass electric cooktop surface. Instead, just the controls should be covered.

On the Holidays, a gas flame or electric heat may not be initiated or turned completely off. For gas cooktops, raise and lower the temperature as required for cooking. For electric cooktops adjusting the temperature is permitted at any time following the instructions in the owner's manual (because there is a delay between the request and implementation).

During a power failure, gas cooktops will remain on, whereas electric cooktops will shut off and remain off when the power returns.

The glass electric cooktops cannot be kashered for Passover. For the rest of the year, be sure to wipe the cooking surface clean between meat and dairy use.

OVENS:

The oven temperature may not be initiated, adjusted or turned off on the Sabbath.

On the Sabbath, in lieu of a "blech", the oven controls should be covered. (Be careful not to cover vent openings.)

All food should be placed in the oven before the Sabbath begins, since none may be placed in the oven during the Sabbath.

On the Sabbath, the oven door may only be opened once, all the food removed, and then closed. On the Holidays, the oven door may be opened/closed at any time as often as desired.

On the Holidays, the temperature may be adjusted (but not initiated or turned off) at any time following the instructions in the owner's manual (because there is a delay between the request and implementation).

These ovens have a timed bake feature in the Sabbath mode. This feature can only be initiated before the Sabbath/Holiday. Once timed bake goes off, the oven cannot be used again for that Sabbath/Holiday.

These ovens have a delay start feature in the Sabbath mode. For use on the Sabbath, all food must be in the oven before the Sabbath begins.

After recovery from a power failure, all these ovens will stay off. They will remain in the Sabbath mode, however, there will be no cooking capability.

WARMING DRAWERS:

The drawer temperature may not be initiated, adjusted or turned off on the Sabbath.

On the Sabbath, in lieu of a "blech", the drawer controls should be covered. (Be careful not to cover vent openings.)

Food should be placed in the warming drawer before the Sabbath begins, as in a regular oven, since none may be placed in the drawer during the Sabbath.

On the Sabbath, the drawer may only be opened once, all the food removed and then closed. On the Holidays, the drawer may be opened/closed at any time as often as desired.

On the Holidays, raising the temperature is not permitted because there is no indication when power is on to the heating elements. Lowering the temperature is permitted when necessary for food preparation.

If the power fails when the warming drawer is ON, when the power returns, the drawer will return to its previous ON setting.

BAKE-N-WARM™ OVENS:

The oven temperature may not be initiated, adjusted or turned off on the Sabbath.

On the Sabbath, in lieu of a "blech", the oven controls should be covered. (Be careful not to cover vent openings.)

Food should be placed in the Bake-n-Warm™ oven before the Sabbath begins, since none may be placed in the oven during the Sabbath.

On the Sabbath, the oven door may only be opened once, all the food removed and then closed. On the Holidays, the oven door may be opened/closed at any time as often as desired.

On the Holidays, the temperature may be adjusted (but not initiated or turned off) at any time following the instructions in the owner's manual (because there is a delay between the request and implementation).

After recovery from a power failure, these Bake & Warm™ ovens will stay off.

[Blood of Tyrants]

However, Jewish belief is that there is, at all times, at least one person who does live up to the standard God sets. When the time for the Messiah is here, that person will step forward. If that person dies, then there is another person up to God's standards, available, if there is need.

Interesting. Can you tell me where that is written? I find that the more I understand ancient Jewish beliefs and tradition, the better I understand the teachings of Yeshua and Paul in the New Testement.

[rock58seg]

blech is simply the German and hence Yiddish word for tin.

[Celtjew Libertarian]

It's been a while since I learned that -- may even be my childhood. I want to say Maimonides had something to do with it -- certainly belief that Messiah will come is part of his 13 Principles of Faith -- but I cannot say for certain.

I don't have time to research it at this moment, but I will, if I remember, when I have the time.

[Tamar1973]

Belief in the Messiah to come is #12 of the 13 principles. I have a Messianic version on my FR homepage.

Maimonides: The 13 Principles and the Resurrection of the Dead

[stradivarius]

"I ask again, have you or anyone you know of beeen able to keep ALL of G-d's laws?"

http://www.shechem.org/torah/avot.html

See, Pirkei Avot ("Sayings of the Fathers"), esp. Ch. 2:21.

16. Rabbi Joshua said: The evil eye, the evil desire and hatred of his fellow creatures put a man out of the world.

17. Rabbi Yosi said: Let the property of your fellow man be as dear to you as your own. Prepare yourself for the study of the Torah, for the knowledge of it is not yours by inheritance. Let all your deeds be done for the sake of Heaven.

18. Rabbi Shimon said: Be careful in the reciting of the Shema and in prayer. When you pray do not make your prayer a form of routine but a plea for mercy and supplications before G-d, for it is written (Joel 2:13), "For he is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and abounding in steadfast love, and relents from punishing." Do not be wicked in your own mind.

19. Rabbi Elazar said: Be eager to study the Torah. Know what to respond to a heretic. Know before whom you toil and who is your employer who shall pay you the reward of your labor.

20. Rabbi Tarfon said: The day is short, the task is great, the laborers are lazy, the wage is abundant and the master is urgent.

21. He used to say: It is not incumbent upon you to finish the task. Yet, you are not free to desist from it. If you have studied much in the Torah much reward will be given you, for faithful is your employer who shall pay you the reward of your labor. And know that the reward for the righteous shall be in the time to come.

[newgeezer]

Hey, OldFriend, did you see my post #246 to you over here? Surely you want to respond to it.

Of course, if you don't respond, one can draw some fairly obvious conclusions from that, too.

[Blood of Tyrants]

17. Rabbi Yosi said: Let the property of your fellow man be as dear to you as your own.

There are a lot of people who take that waaaay to literally and then decide that THEY hold it more dearly than me. So they take it.

[stradivarius]

"There are a lot of people who take that waaaay to literally and then decide that THEY hold it more dearly than me. So they take it."

That proverb is an expression of the Golden Rule NOT to do to others what is hateful to oneself. That particular proverb implores one to respect the private property of others.

One of the ironies with Communists is that while they preach against the right of others to own private property, they're quite greedy with their own possessions.

[newgeezer]

Your silence speaks volumes.

Hypocrite.

[lifelongsoldier]

"7:1 The Pharisees and some of the scribes gathered around Him when they had come from Jerusalem,
2 and had seen that some of His disciples were eating their bread with impure hands, that is, unwashed.
3 (For the Pharisees and all the Jews do not eat unless they carefully wash their hands, thus observing the traditions of the elders;
4 and when they come from the market place, they do not eat unless they cleanse themselves; and there are many other things which they have received in order to observe, such as the washing of cups and pitchers and copper pots.)
5 The Pharisees and the scribes asked^ Him, "Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat their bread with impure hands?"
6 And He said to them, "Rightly did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: 'THIS PEOPLE HONORS ME WITH THEIR LIPS, BUT THEIR HEART IS FAR AWAY FROM ME.
7 'BUT IN VAIN DO THEY WORSHIP ME, TEACHING AS DOCTRINES THE PRECEPTS OF MEN.'
8 "Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men."
9 He was also saying to them, "You are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition.
10 "For Moses said, 'HONOR YOUR FATHER AND YOUR MOTHER'; and, 'HE WHO SPEAKS EVIL OF FATHER OR MOTHER, IS TO BE PUT TO DEATH';
11 but you say, 'If a man says to his father or his mother, whatever I have that would help you is Corban (that is to say, given to God),'
12 you no longer permit him to do anything for his father or his mother;
13 thus invalidating the word of God by your tradition which you have handed down; and you do many things such as that."

I realize that this is rather long, but it is to show that Yeshua addressed the importance of following the Law as it was given to Moshe, and not as it was interpreted by others. The traditions had made observance of the Law burdensome and it was that that He was addressing. I grew up in a tradition that believed that everyone who lived post Yeshua, except them of course, would be going to hell. They were quite ecumenical in that belief, it included most of Christendom, all Jews, Muslims, Hindus, and every other group. My main question is: How did HaShem say to observe the Sabbath? And why is there a difference in where you expend energy? Work is work. I would presume that He meant that ones pursuits, all of them, on the Sabbath were to be directed at keeping the Sabbath holy.

I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, that is the job of the Spirit, just trying to make people think about what they do.

[lifelongsoldier]

Now I am.

[Alouette]

This is just an update to let you folks know that I read my Amana oven owner's manual on the Sabbath mode in order to use it this past Shabbat.

Since I didn't want to leave the oven on for over 24 hours, full "Sabbath mode" wasn't even necessary. So I just set the automatic timer to keep the food warm and shut itself off by the time we finished supper. Worked very nicely, and I didn't have a hot kitchen from keeping a gas burner on all day.

The "cholent" that we eat on Saturday afternoon I prepared as usual and kept warm on the slo-cooker element.

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[onedoug]

"cholent"

Good synagogue fare.

'Hope you had "Gut Shabbos".

[montag813]

Mass silliness. I wonder what the Jerusalem hospitals' ER procedures are on the Sabbath? Can the emergency doctors do anything? Do ambulances even pull up to the doors, or is that considered "work"?

Do you have nothing better to do than insert yourself into this thread by insulting religious Jews? Talk about "silliness". It is idiotic to suggest that Israeli doctors would let people die over Sabbath. The rules that Orthodox Jews follow come out of a love and devotion to God, not out of hysteria. All religions, Christianity included, have customs and restrictions regarding religious holidays. Christians revere the Torah and are not so flippant about ridiculing the customs therein. Moreover, over 70% of Orthadox Jews voted for Bush and support the same issues that conservative Christians do. These are not Muslim drones who kill their sisters for "honor" after they are raped. They deserve better than your ridicule.

[SJackson]

It was a slow day. There weren't any threads on Jewish voting and the like where one could insult non-observant Jews, so you do the best with what you have.

[SJackson]

This is just an update to let you folks know that I read my Amana oven owner's manual on the Sabbath mode in order to use it this past Shabbat.

If you could find an owners manual you're a lot more organized than I am.

[night reader]

It doesn't bother me but I am free to comment on it.

You have a right to do so, but is it right to do so? Last time I heard, Orthodox Jews were not out aggressively proselytizing new converts. Therefore there are no naive innocents to be informed lest they be tricked into joining a group of fanatics. I 'spect most religions have some doctrines or practices which others might find bizarre or even offensive, But unless they're Jews, Catholics, or Mormons, we let them go on their merry way. I see the thrust of your post as, "Look at the strange people. They're just not as enlightened as I."

The enemy is radical Islam... not Orthodox Judaism. Use your energy to attack the enemy.