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1 posted on 05/13/2005 8:13:40 AM PDT by Alex Marko
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Gasp! Bush is criticizing Saint FDR, what will the Dems do now? Hate him even more?


2 posted on 05/13/2005 8:16:34 AM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel
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FDR loved the commies. I can't decide who was worse, him or Carter.


3 posted on 05/13/2005 8:19:13 AM PDT by Redgirl (I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him.)
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Yes, one of the leftists attorneys I know here was ranting and raving about picking on "poor, dead, FDR" damning Bush for what he called "Bush said the Greatest Generation did not do enough." I told him I never heard those words. He ranted that is "WHAT BUSH MEANT." I said, how do you know that is what he meant? He ranted that Bush was picking on a dead man. I said, well since FDR was a socialist himself, giving us social security, federal income taxes, and basically lying and I believe, allowing us to be attacked at Pearl Harbor to get the US into WWII, then he deserved picking on. But, of course, that did not placate this leftist. He continued to rant. I laughed and walked off.
4 posted on 05/13/2005 8:20:58 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Search and Destroy socialist democrats & their leaders Fat Ted, F'n Kerry & the Beast!)
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That is not everything that the great liberal icon FDR sold us out on.


5 posted on 05/13/2005 8:21:29 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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When the Germans surrendered, the Japanese army was virtually untouched, fresh, and formidable. In conventional terms we were looking at a horrendous and maybe even unwinable battle with the Japanese. In that context I think it is understandable that Roosevelt chose not to start a whole new war with the Russians.


6 posted on 05/13/2005 8:22:33 AM PDT by DManA
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"Bush Apologizes for FDR’s Sellout at Yalta"


That's nuthin!

Morris Sutter appologized yesterday to Nicky DelCorpo for beating the crap out of him when we were in high school.

7 posted on 05/13/2005 8:23:16 AM PDT by G.Mason ( Save the Republic from the shallow, demagogic sectarians.)
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Now how about an apology for all the other horrendous things FDR did?


10 posted on 05/13/2005 8:31:00 AM PDT by reelfoot
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Yet liberal historians continue to defend it. Witness Arthur Schlesigner, Jr. on huffingpost.com

Yalta Delusions
The Yalta conference in February 1945 produced, according to President Bush, "one of the greatest wrongs of history." The Yalta agreements "followed in the unjust tradition of Munich and the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact.…Once again, when powerful governments negotiated, the freedom of small nations was somehow expendable."

The American president is under the delusion that tougher diplomacy might have preserved the freedom of small East European nations. He forgets the presence of the Red Army. No conceivable diplomacy could have saved Eastern Europe from Soviet occupation. And military action against the Soviet Union was inconceivable so long as the Pacific War was still going on. Our military planners, in order to reduce American casualties, counted on the Red Army to enter the war against Japan . At Yalta Stalin promised a firm date in August. And in February the atom bomb seemed a fantasy dreamed up by nuclear physicists.

As for Eastern Europe, Stalin "held all the cards" in the words of Charles E. Bohlen, the Russian expert. But FDR managed to extract an astonishing document – the Declaration on Liberated Europe, an eloquent affirmation of "the right of all people to choose the form of government under which they will live." Molotov warned Stalin against signing it, but he signed it anyway. It was a grave diplomatic blunder. In order to consolidate Soviet control, Stalin had to break the Yalta agreements – which therefore could not have been in his favor.

The Declaration stands as the refutation of the myth, given new currency by the president of the United States , that Yalta caused or ratified the division of Europe . It was the deployment of armies, not negotiating concessions, that caused the division of Europe.

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18 posted on 05/13/2005 8:52:00 AM PDT by Sanjuro68
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And FDR defenders want us all to forget the role played at Yalta by Alger Hiss, who, while, at Yalta as an advisor to FDR, flew to Moscow after the conference to receive a commendation from the Soviets for his assistance

Alger Hiss

In 1996, shortly after Hiss's death, a collection of Venona decrypts was declassified. One of the messages, dated March 30, 1945, refers to an American with the code name Ales. According to the message, Ales was a Soviet agent working in the State Department, who accompanied President Roosevelt to the 1945 Yalta Conference and then flew to Moscow, both of which Hiss did. The message goes on to indicate that Ales met with Andrei Vyshinsky, the Commissar for Foreign Affairs, and was commended for his aid to the Soviets. Analysts at the National Security Agency have gone on record asserting that Ales could only have been Alger Hiss

21 posted on 05/13/2005 8:55:14 AM PDT by Irontank (Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under)
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It was at Yalta, a filthy Russian port on the Black Sea

I got to this part and stopped reading. Obviously the author has never been in the Crimea, which is the Ukraine's riviera, and Yalta is it's pearl.

Why believe anything else he has to say?

31 posted on 05/13/2005 9:31:14 AM PDT by struwwelpeter
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BTTT


33 posted on 05/13/2005 9:59:46 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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It was FDRs fault.

You thought I was going to write that it was Bush's fault ...

34 posted on 05/13/2005 10:01:03 AM PDT by af_vet_1981
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40 posted on 05/13/2005 2:46:29 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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