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Senator Voinovich: Back Stabber
Blogs for Bush ^ | May 12, 2005 | Mark Noonan

Posted on 05/12/2005 8:52:20 AM PDT by Mark Noonan

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To: Mark Noonan

I hope Karl Rove pays him back - big time.


81 posted on 05/12/2005 3:36:59 PM PDT by veronica (CP = Jeffords Republicrats...)
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To: Mark Noonan
Yes. I think this proves several things.

(1)The Karl Rove/GWB notion that "moderates" will help prevail electorally was bankrupt. GWB won with good old hardline conservatives pulling his bacon out of the fire...holding their noses the whole time. The Hispanics and GOP "moderates" and urban black vote went for Kerry overwhelmingly. Rove's strategy bites.

(2) GOP Moderates are not good team players. They have proven over and over again that their own liberal sentiments are what counts to them...not coalitional unity to advance the core causes. The RATs constantly are able to muster coalitional unity...even though over horrible, execrable immoral causes and persons. Why can't the GOP when the worst offense the opponents can muster up is that he is pugnacious? Guess Voinivich would have had a hard time supporting Teddy Roosevelt...

(3) GOP Moderates represent an immediate hazard and danger of destroying any hopes for a ruling majority. GWB needs to help the party leadership effectively discipline such RINOs who betray simple things like this. Blacklisting of their speaking events might be a place to start. Denying them any honors in the party is another place. An internal party censure procedure might cause these flakes to go over to the other side...so should be saved...and done immediately prior to something timely...like the Ohio primaries... Unfortunately the guy has six years to be a pompous ass....

82 posted on 05/12/2005 3:39:25 PM PDT by Paul Ross (United we stand, diversified we splinter.)
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To: soundandvision

Christ sake! This is horrible. Who are we gonna vote for? Think of the crap candidates that have opposed him? No one in the primaries. Fingerhut? Boyle. I'm gonna puke.


83 posted on 05/12/2005 3:43:16 PM PDT by anton
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To: billie bob
"The staff person I talked to said they could win without my vote!"

That was then. Lets see how well they do next time around. Donations coming from other states have a big impact.

84 posted on 05/12/2005 3:44:58 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Mark Noonan; All
Panel Sends Bolton Nomination to Senate
May 12,2005
By BARRY SCHWEID

WASHINGTON (AP) - A divided Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Thursday sent the nomination of John Bolton to be U.N. ambassador to the full Senate. But it took the rare step of refusing to endorse the blunt- speaking conservative.

The move kept the contentious nomination alive, leaving its fate in the hands of the GOP-run Senate. By not recommending that senators approve Bolton's nomination, the committee delivered a slap at President Bush in one of the first big battles of his second term.

"It doesn't appear that Mr. Bolton has the confidence of the majority of this committee," said Sen. Joseph Biden of Delaware, the senior Democrat on the panel. "And I would suggest that it may be worth the president's interest to take note of that."

The panel acted after a pivotal Republican member, Sen. George Voinovich of Ohio, voiced opposition to the nomination, calling Bolton arrogant and bullying. Yet Voinovich broke a committee impasse by agreeing to let the full Senate vote rather than joining Democrats' effort to kill the nomination in committee.

All 10 Republicans voted to send the nomination to the floor. All eight Democrats voted no.

Bolton, 56, who is now the top arms control diplomat at the State Department, has strong ties among political conservatives both inside and outside the administration.

The panel delayed its vote for three weeks after four Republican members asked for more time to study accusations that Bolton bullied subordinates and exaggerated intelligence assessments.

Three of the four said they had decided to support Bolton, but Voinovich said he could not. "The United States can do better than John Bolton," Voinovich told the panel during a debate lasting over five hours.

The panel's Republican chairman, Richard Lugar of Indiana, declined to hold a vote on sending the nomination to the Senate with the committee's endorsement once it became clear that Voinovich's opposition would have caused a 9-9 split, with a majority needed to prevail.

Instead, he embraced Voinovich's suggestion to send the nomination to the floor without a recommendation. Committees usually endorse the nominees they send to the Senate for a vote.

Other Republicans fell in line behind Voinovich's suggestion.

Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., who earlier expressed misgivings about the nomination, told the panel he decided he had "enough confidence in this president to take him at his word, and take Mr. Bolton at his word."

But with Bolton short of enough votes for committee approval, Hagel announced he would support Voinovich's proposal to send the nomination to the floor with no recommendation.

Despite Voinovich's sharp criticism of Bolton, who now serves as undersecretary of state for arms control, the White House was clearly relieved that the Ohio senator had agreed to let the full Senate decide.

Bush spokesman Scott McClellan said the White House is now confident Bolton will be confirmed by the full Senate.

"We respect Sen. Voinovich's decision, but there are many people who agree with the president that John Bolton is the right person at the right time for this important position," he said.

Democrats have not ruled out using procedural delays to try killing Bolton's nomination in the full Senate. It would take the votes of 60 of the 100 senators to stop the delay.

Voinovich called Bolton "the poster child of what someone in the diplomatic corps should not be." He said Bolton would be fired if he was in the private sector.

"That being said, Mr. Chairman, I am not so arrogant to think that I should impose my judgment and perspective of the U.S. position in the world community on the rest of my colleagues," he added.

Voinovich told reporters he would vote against Bolton in the full Senate. Will Bolton win eventual confirmation? "I have every faith in my colleagues. No one really is excited about him. We'll see what happens," he said.

He said he hoped the full Senate, where Republicans hold a 55-45 majority, would reject the nomination.

"What message are we sending to the world community?" Voinovich asked.

Lugar defended the nomination, while conceding that "Secretary Bolton's actions were not always exemplary."

Bolton misjudged the actions of subordinates and sometimes clashed with superiors in his current role as the top arms-control diplomat at the State Department, Lugar said.

But weeks of intense Senate inquiry turned up no evidence that Bolton did anything that would disqualify him as Bush's choice for the United Nations job, Lugar said.

"His blunt style alienated some colleagues. But there is no evidence that he has broken laws or engaged in serious ethical misconduct," Lugar said.

Biden opposed sending the nomination to the floor without a recommendation. "I think we have undermined our authority and shirked our constitutional responsibility," Biden said.

Later, Biden told reporters he did not know if Bolton's vote could be stopped in the full Senate. "Would I have liked it better to have a 'no' vote? Yes," he said.

Committee Republicans and Democrats alternately praised and denounced Bolton's qualifications and direct manner.

"We are not electing Mr. Congeniality. We do not need Mr. Milquetoast," said Sen. George Allen, R-Va., arguing that Bolton would be an effective agent for change at the United Nations.

But Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts, last year's Democratic presidential nominee, portrayed Bolton as a loose cannon whose pronouncements would prompt other diplomats to ask, "Who is he speaking for?"

85 posted on 05/12/2005 3:48:59 PM PDT by Paul Ross (United we stand, diversified we fall)
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To: Mark Noonan
Hello,

As I listened to Voinovich's statement today, I realized that he is so compromised (for what, I do not know at this point), that he brought speaking out of both sides of his mouth to a new and previously unattained level. Moment to moment, no one on the planet knew where he was going. It was, without a doubt, one of the most pathetic things I have ever seen. Regardless of the outcome of this issue, he needs a large B to be printed on his head. The B will stand for either "Blackmailed" or "Bastard". Both seem to fit.

Glad to be here, MOgirl
86 posted on 05/12/2005 3:49:52 PM PDT by MOgirl (In memory of Walton Wayne Callahan, I love you forever.)
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To: Paul Ross
But Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts, last year's Democratic presidential nominee, portrayed Bolton as a loose cannon whose pronouncements would prompt other diplomats to ask, "Who is he speaking for?"

Can you say the PRESIDENT, and HIS FELLOW AMERICANS, Mr. Heinz-Kerry? Didn't think so.

87 posted on 05/12/2005 4:06:40 PM PDT by Paul Ross (United we stand, diversified we fall)
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To: RushCrush
What was his reasoning?

Politicly correct Bullsplatter and a lack of guts to start with

Bolten is a bully ! Waaa Waaa Waaaa

88 posted on 05/12/2005 5:02:20 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: soundandvision

I will be very surprised if Voinovich runs for re-election in 2010. He is getting up there in age and has been in the hospital for something in the past couple of years.
I think the leadership of the Ohio Republican Party is going to see some changes in the next couple years. The state party is truly at a crossroads and it has to determine what direction it is going to take in the future. With the governor's primary coming in 2006, along with potential primaries for all the other statewide offices, we may see the Republican voter in Ohio sending a message to the party establishment in this state. I think we are going to be seeing some new faces of the future for Ohio Republicans very soon.


89 posted on 05/12/2005 5:50:05 PM PDT by Columbus Dawg (Unfortunate to live in that blue spot in central Ohio)
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To: TAdams8591
,i>"In case anyone has anything to say to Voinovich, here is his DC office Number: (202) 224-3353."

So Voinovich comes in the office tomorrow. One of his staff says, "Do you want to know how the phone calls are coming in on any subject?" Voinovich says, "No, I don't care".

Arlan Spector does exactly that. I know, I heard it. (But that's another story).

90 posted on 05/12/2005 5:59:06 PM PDT by AGreatPer (Top 10 Liberal Solutions: 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, ..... None)
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To: jneesy

Allen has been all over the airwaves supporting the judges and Bolton...he's such a solid man. I'm exhausted from sending V emails regarding his behavior...know it's better coming from Ohio so all of you know we're helping where we can. When I call Reid's office and say I'm from out of state, they conveniently disconnect me. I have a friend in NV and have her calling daily for me. Frist better get it done before we all lose it completely from frustration.


91 posted on 05/12/2005 6:09:36 PM PDT by TatieBug
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To: TAdams8591
"The mail box belonging to....senator boinavich.....is full, good bye"

LOLOLOL!!

92 posted on 05/12/2005 6:33:20 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: cripplecreek
BUTTMONKEY
93 posted on 05/12/2005 6:54:19 PM PDT by Boazo (From the mind of BOAZO)
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To: AGreatPer
Good to "see" you! I'm sure you are right about both of them. LOL!

You think phone calls are a waste of time?

94 posted on 05/12/2005 8:35:43 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Terri Schindler was NOT in coma, JUSTICE was.....)
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To: DainBramage

LOL!!!!!


95 posted on 05/12/2005 8:38:20 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Terri Schindler was NOT in coma, JUSTICE was.....)
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To: Boazo

Hysterical. I'm sure Laura would love it!


96 posted on 05/12/2005 8:39:30 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Terri Schindler was NOT in coma, JUSTICE was.....)
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