Renegade Senate Republicans hold power in judicial nominees fight

knight ridder ^ | May 6 05 | knight ridder

[deport]

Or .. is this just more wishful thinking on the part of the media ..??

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You don't reckon that would be why all of a sudden there are tons of articles trying to push the vote below the 50 needed Senators, do you? And don't forget all the backroom deals that have been offered or so the MSM is saying. Why deals/compromises if the votes aren't there?.....

[demlosers]

Cheney can be the 51st vote.

[Kenny Bunkport]

I'll take it.

[jim macomber]

"...as is 27-year Senate veteran John Warner of Virginia, who reveres the chamber's traditions."

Apparently this doesn't include the tradition that in order to filibuster you actually have to put out some effort?

[PeoplesRepublicOfWashington]

...if the Republicans ever tried to filibuster a Democrat judicial nominee, the majority Dems would go nuclear without batting an eye.

I remember when I was a kid taking Civics a Senate motion for cloture required 67 votes. Didn't a 'Rat-controlled Senate change that to a mere 60 votes? Looks to me that the 'Rats have already tampered with the filibuster. I don't ever remember hearing anyone denouncing the end of the House 'filibuster' in the late 1800s. What a shame it would be to turn our legislative branch of government into a body where the majority rules.

[Kenny Bunkport]

Yeah, good point about how the Dems recently modified their sacred Senate rule.

[jackbill]

Clearly, McCain and Hagel think that by seeming to be "moderate" they have a good chance for the presidency in 2008. I wouldn't vote for either of these pieces of garbage if my life depended on it.

When will McCain and MSM admit that the only way that McCain got votes in the 2000 primary was by independents and Democrats who were allowed to crossover in certain primaries. Republicans voted against him in droves. And, I believe, that was one of their proudest moments.

People like Snow, Collins and Chafee are just idiots.

[paul51]

who reveres the chamber's traditions

If these jackasses weren't so out of touch with the people of this country whom they work for, they would realize how laughable that really is.

[PeoplesRepublicOfWashington]

When will McCain and MSM admit that the only way that McCain got votes in the 2000 primary was by independents and Democrats who were allowed to crossover in certain primaries. Republicans voted against him in droves.

McCain motivated me to attend my first party caucus in 2000--so I could vote against his liberal butt!

[Congressman Billybob]

As I have patiently explained on various threads for about two months, 1) the vote cannot take place until a contested judicial nominee is officially before the Senate, and 2) in case some Democrat Senators decide to tie up the Senate, it is wise to get the budget bill and the energy bill safely through the Senate before the critical vote.

Therefore, when those two bills are passed and signed as Acts, Frist will bring to the floor either Judge Owen or Judge Brown (odds favor the latter). Having counted the Senate noses better than Lugar did in the Bolton hearing, Frist will then pull the trigger.

This is not rocket science, but there is a certain need to pay attention to the processes of the US Senate.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: "Lies, D*mned Lies, and the Washington Post"

[Cboldt]

I agree with your analysis, except I prefer to think of the DEMs as the ones "pulling the trigger." They can vote when the motion to vote is made, or they can "pull the trigger" by objecting to taking the vote.

[Common Tator]

If so, it's time to vote a bunch of RINOs out of office.

You know less about getting people elected than the man you name yourself after.

If Winston Churchill had known anything about getting elected he would not have been defeated 6 weeks after Winning WWII!

[CyberAnt]

"what is the real reason to fear challenging the Demos?"


NYT WP CNN CBS ABC NBC for starters - and then maybe cocktail parties; trips to the hamptons ..??

But .. the "squish" moderates need to get a clue.

[CyberAnt]

"Why deals/compromises if the votes aren't there??"


BINGO!!!

[swilhelm73]

Among this band of renegade Senate Republicans...is 27-year Senate veteran John Warner of Virginia, who reveres the chamber's traditions.

Uh...do the last 4 years of Democrats filibustering judges really count as a tradition?

[harpo11]

"NYT WP CNN CBS ABC NBC for starters - and then maybe cocktail parties; trips to the hamptons ..?? "

LOL!!! You'd have to be a first class idiot senator to think partying with that crowd would be any fun?

Vote the RINO Wimps Out!

And, does anyone wonder why President Bush used his political weight to keep Spector in office let alone allow this ingrate to Chair the JC?

[CyberAnt]

But .. RINO's are just liberal enough they like the company of the dems .. and they are cowards who are afraid to stand up for what they believe in .. which makes them easy targets for the dems' attacks.

[SoCar]

Clearly, McCain and Hagel think that by seeming to be "moderate" they have a good chance for the presidency in 2008. I wouldn't vote for either of these pieces of garbage if my life depended on it.

Ditto to that. Like how the article labels them "nonconformists." The media just loves those "renegade Republicans." Not so much love for the Zell Millers or Ben Nelsons of this world though.

[jstolzen]

IMHO, this strategy (pass major bills first, THEN go Constitutional) is doomed to failure.

The longer Frist delays, the more pressure is put, the more threats are made (FBI files, anyone?) against the RINOs and other spineless Repubs.

I would suspect that Frist realizes this, and is trying to ultimately get out of the showdown (heck, he surely can't "really" want this!) by allowing the other side to pick away at what tenuous support he has.

IMHO, this is all a big game of positioning for public consumption. I'd wager BIG money that Frist has NO intention of EVER pulling the trigger. Maybe he will go through the motions, but he HAS to know that every day's delay erodes any support that they MIGHT have had at one time.

These people make me crazy. DO IT ALREADY!!!, before it's not doable!

[TeenagedConservative]

Krauthammer said on The Special Report with Brit Hume that the filibuster would not be eliminated until 2006, when we get more strong conservatives into office.