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To: Alberta's Child
You didn't prove anything, as you did not include all U.S. financial assistance to Israel in your "2% of Israel's GDP" statement. And I didn't say I want Israel off USAID, either -- I simply want them to treat us the way any beneficiary of financial largesse should treat their primary benefactor.

YOu didnt prove Israel needs US to survive. I showed you Israel existed before US Aid in 1973 and was just fine.

I want ISrael off US AID because just like ISrael has their own interests that dont always coincide with American interests, America doesnt always have Israeli interests in mind.

Israel signed those accords because they had the sh!t scared out of them in the 1973 Yom Kippur war. The Begin government was smart enough to realize that the nation's economy would collapse if it had to finance a major military campaign with its neighbors every 5-10 years. In addition to all that, the U.S. government made it perfectly clear to both parties that the Sinai peninsula had to be given back to Egypt as part of the agreement.

What a way to twist history. First off in 1973 it was Nixon and that self hating JEw Kissinger who begged Israel not to attack first. Israel listened foolishly and it cost Israel greatly, still Israel won and was prepared to Finish Egypt and Syria off, but once again gave into American Pressure.

Israel got NOTHING for giving back the Siani. They gave up oil reserves THEY DEVELOPED, and now have to deal with tunnels built across the Sinai that transport weaposn to PLO and Hamas.

78 posted on 05/04/2005 2:35:25 PM PDT by Evolution (Tolerance!? We don't need no stinking Tolerance ! ! !)
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To: Evolution
If Israel didn't need U.S. aid to survive, they wouldn't ask for U.S. aid. There's a simple reason why Israel "needs" U.S. aid to survive these days -- because they want to maintain a European-style welfare state while at the same time maintaining a war-time level of military preparedness at all times. It is impossible to do this unless you have a substantial flow of cash and other financial assistance from an outside benefactor.

What a way to twist history. First off in 1973 it was Nixon and that self hating JEw Kissinger who begged Israel not to attack first. Israel listened foolishly and it cost Israel greatly, still Israel won and was prepared to Finish Egypt and Syria off, but once again gave into American Pressure.

It's kind of funny how Israeli history (according to so many Americans here on FreeRepublic) is filled with all these "traitors" and "self-hating Jews," and yet every government (left, right, and all over the map) seems to have the same problem of "listening foolishly" to things that are supposed to be such threats to the nation's existence. What the hell is going on here?

Israel got NOTHING for giving back the Siani. They gave up oil reserves THEY DEVELOPED, and now have to deal with tunnels built across the Sinai that transport weaposn to PLO and Hamas.

Again -- why is it that every generation of Israeli leadership is so "stupid?"

82 posted on 05/04/2005 2:47:40 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but lord I'm free.)
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