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Victim Refuses to Marry Rapist
Hindustan Times ^ | May 3, 2005

Posted on 05/03/2005 6:23:35 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: CarrotAndStick

And they would never kill a young woman for not being a virgin, just like they would never bury the widow with the body of her husband. India's secular laws and courts don't always get to the scene of the crime on time.


41 posted on 05/04/2005 4:13:01 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: AD from SpringBay
Scott Peterson and all.

A few pebbles not a mountain make.

42 posted on 05/04/2005 4:23:15 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: AD from SpringBay

By your logic, hearing about the sexual escapades of Christian priests with young boys the world-over, would you want me to believe Christianity endorses paedophilia? I assume no, and you will then get the picture.


43 posted on 05/04/2005 4:26:27 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: nickcarraway

I think public castration of the genitals would be an effective deterrent to rape.


44 posted on 05/04/2005 4:57:46 AM PDT by Rebelbase (The Republican Party is the France of politics--Lazamataz)
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To: cyborg
"I do recall a bible story about this."

I think that would be the rape of Dinah, whose assailant later went to her father saying that he loved her and wanted to marry her. Her father and brothers agreed, under the condition that all the men in their city be circumcised, which they were. Then, when all the men of the city were in a world of hurt, Dinah's brothers took their revenge and wiped them all out.

Now Dinah the daughter of Leah, whom she had borne to Jacob, went out to visit the daughters of the land. When Shechem the son of Hamor the Hivite, the prince of the land, saw her, he took her and lay with her by force. He was deeply attracted to Dinah the daughter of Jacob, and he loved the girl and spoke tenderly to her. So Shechem spoke to his father Hamor, saying, "Get me this young girl for a wife." Now Jacob heard that he had defiled Dinah his daughter; but his sons were with his livestock in the field, so Jacob kept silent until they came in.
Then Hamor the father of Shechem went out to Jacob to speak with him. Now the sons of Jacob came in from the field when they heard {it;} and the men were grieved, and they were very angry because he had done a disgraceful thing in Israel by lying with Jacob's daughter, for such a thing ought not to be done. But Hamor spoke with them, saying, "The soul of my son Shechem longs for your daughter; please give her to him in marriage. "Intermarry with us; give your daughters to us and take our daughters for yourselves. "Thus you shall live with us, and the land shall be {open} before you; live and trade in it and acquire property in it." Shechem also said to her father and to her brothers, "If I find favor in your sight, then I will give whatever you say to me. "Ask me ever so much bridal payment and gift, and I will give according as you say to me; but give me the girl in marriage." But Jacob's sons answered Shechem and his father Hamor with deceit, because he had defiled Dinah their sister. They said to them, "We cannot do this thing, to give our sister to one who is uncircumcised, for that would be a disgrace to us. "Only on this {condition} will we consent to you: if you will become like us, in that every male of you be circumcised, then we will give our daughters to you, and we will take your daughters for ourselves, and we will live with you and become one people. "But if you will not listen to us to be circumcised, then we will take our daughter and go."
Now their words seemed reasonable to Hamor and Shechem, Hamor's son. The young man did not delay to do the thing, because he was delighted with Jacob's daughter. Now he was more respected than all the household of his father. So Hamor and his son Shechem came to the gate of their city and spoke to the men of their city, saying, "These men are friendly with us; therefore let them live in the land and trade in it, for behold, the land is large enough for them. Let us take their daughters in marriage, and give our daughters to them. "Only on this {condition} will the men consent to us to live with us, to become one people: that every male among us be circumcised as they are circumcised. "Will not their livestock and their property and all their animals be ours? Only let us consent to them, and they will live with us." All who went out of the gate of his city listened to Hamor and to his son Shechem, and every male was circumcised, all who went out of the gate of his city.
Now it came about on the third day, when they were in pain, that two of Jacob's sons, Simeon and Levi, Dinah's brothers, each took his sword and came upon the city unawares, and killed every male. They killed Hamor and his son Shechem with the edge of the sword, and took Dinah from Shechem's house, and went forth. Jacob's sons came upon the slain and looted the city, because they had defiled their sister. They took their flocks and their herds and their donkeys, and that which was in the city and that which was in the field; and they captured and looted all their wealth and all their little ones and their wives, even all that {was} in the houses. Then Jacob said to Simeon and Levi, "You have brought trouble on me by making me odious among the inhabitants of the land, among the Canaanites and the Perizzites; and my men being few in number, they will gather together against me and attack me and I will be destroyed, I and my household." But they said, "Should he treat our sister as a harlot?" (Gen. 34)

"Now he was more respected than all the household of his father. So Hamor and his son Shechem came to the gate of their city and spoke to the men of their city, saying, ... "Only on this {condition} will the men consent to us to live with us, to become one people: that every male among us be circumcised as they are circumcised."

Now you KNOW he had to have some serious influence! I mean, think about it. Can you imagine someone like Bubba taking the stage in a city and saying, "hey, now there's this hot babe I want to do and I know y'all love me and want to see me happy. There's just one little thing y'all gotta do for me. Go get the family jewels snipped." Yeah, right. Somehow I don't think there'd be a whole lot of enthusiasm for that plan.

45 posted on 05/04/2005 5:28:38 AM PDT by sweetliberty (Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference.)
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To: sweetliberty

LOL good grief.


46 posted on 05/04/2005 5:31:18 AM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: Celtjew Libertarian

I wrote a short story on that theme once. If I recall correctly, the seducer's bride payment is 50% higher than is normal -- and the family can collect the money and send the seducer on his way. The notion being that a bigger "hope chest" might compensate for the seducee's compromised status.

Until recently, we had the tradition of the "shotgun wedding" in this country.


47 posted on 05/04/2005 5:33:02 AM PDT by TomSmedley (Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
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To: Coop
I will not marry him. In fact, I want him to get the severest punishment... I fail to see the difference here...

LOL!..but very very sad. :)

48 posted on 05/04/2005 8:01:05 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: RiverDrifter

Thank you!


49 posted on 05/04/2005 8:07:48 AM PDT by demkicker (Support DeLay, the Hammer, and the filibuster ban on judicial nominations!)
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To: AD from SpringBay
Caste not want not? Caste makes waste?

Christianity doesn't teach pedophilia and sexual perversion the way some cultures teach the wholesale diminution of women.
50 posted on 05/04/2005 8:09:54 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: MitchellC

duh....


51 posted on 05/05/2005 9:48:41 AM PDT by Proud Conservative2 (Protect America....Help stamp out gutless wonders in the Senate.)
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