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Poll: Most in U.S. say Iraq war not worthwhile
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Posted on 05/03/2005 4:34:09 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: LogicalMs
Incessant news coverage. I think Fox is losing a lot of their viewers for that reason.
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posted on
05/03/2005 8:30:50 PM PDT
by
Americanexpat
(A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
To: LouAvul
"Fifty-seven percent of those polled said they did not believe it was worth going to war, versus 41 percent who said it was, according to a CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll of 1,006 adults."
57% were wrong.
Since when does backing down gain you respect with your enemies.
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posted on
05/03/2005 11:05:01 PM PDT
by
The Real Eddie01
(Why not 1,007 adults? Is 18 the same as 28, 38, 48, 58, 68, 78, 88, 98....)
To: LouAvul
Olds Media uses yet another poll to manufacture "news."
Olds Media sits and spins when the wheels come off.
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posted on
05/03/2005 11:19:26 PM PDT
by
Milhous
To: LouAvul
One more thing...
If a dope has no idea what he/she stands for other than to go with the groups general direction, how does this get included as some piece of relevant fact other than to acknowledge the effectiveness of the propaganda machine against its own constituent.
If your only going to poll 1006 people, make them explain their position intellectually.
"I don't like the war because it was founded on GWB's insatiable family greed for oil and wealth. I heard that at a code pink rally."
Vs.
"Unless we establish a democracy in the middle east, freedom will be hidden from the mind of those who know their God given right, but doubt it due to the fear they may have their children tortured... little limbs torn from their bodies alive or subject to flying shrapnel cutting their guts as their innocence bleeds out onto the dirt street beneath them.
Generations of helpless freakish devils hell bent on killing us by the millions will swirl until one lucky demon slips onto our soil with a nuclear weapon and blows a whole so big in the country as to make more attacks possible.
My boy may be the one on the ground next, life bleeding from his gulliver, with a portion of his beautiful skull lying 40 yards away.
To: Patriot from Philly
"The Dems put up an anti-war General."
Deja-vu. Democrats lack the conviction to do what is right. They are willing to abandon what is right for political gain.
McClellan campaigned on the promise to capitulate with the South. Abandoning the blacks who the Democrat party rely on so heavily in elections these days.
Another example: Bill Clinton.
IMO, Lincoln was one of our greatest presidents, not just because he was a great orator, but because he did what was right at great expense to himself. Ultimately, it cost him his life. Agreed, Bush needs to communicate a lot better.
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posted on
05/04/2005 11:30:02 AM PDT
by
dhs12345
To: LouAvul
I'm not sure the war was worth the guys we got killed and mangled over there. I keep wondering how the world (especially the middle east) would be different now if we had just got our guys out of the way and Nuked the Suni Triangle the day after we pulled Saddam out of his hole in the ground..... with a promise to do the same to Iran and Syria if they didn't cooperate.
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posted on
05/04/2005 11:34:31 AM PDT
by
kjam22
To: The Real Eddie01
Generations of helpless freakish devils hell bent on killing us by the millions will swirl until one lucky demon slips onto our soil with a nuclear weapon and blows a whole so big in the country as to make more attacks possible. That's why killing them first if imperative. And I'm just not sure that creating a democracy in Iraq, Saudia, Iran, and wherever else you want to name prevents the problem you've outlined. At least no one has really explained where I "buy it" how a democratic middle east solves the problem.
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posted on
05/04/2005 11:38:33 AM PDT
by
kjam22
To: LouAvul
What makes it "not worth it" is having to listen to the braying of the Leftist annoyances. Take that out of the equation, and the majority would be over-joyed with the positive effects we are having in the most historically war-torn despot-blighted region on earth.
To: kjam22
If you democratize the middle east, there is less room for one dictator seething with hate against the US to oppress, blame and otherwise whip into a frenzy those under his boot.
If people believe there is hope for a better future, then a career as a homicide bomber seems a little self defeating.
Furthermore, US relations with democratized govenments would provide strategic advantage in the region in our effort to "kill them first". Intelligence and other support, publically acknowledged or not is enhanced.
-Eddie01
To: The Real Eddie01
If people believe there is hope for a better future, then a career as a homicide bomber seems a little self defeating. I don't think this is really accurate.... because I don't think that a better or worse future has any impact on why a muslim extremist wants to kill non muslims. I think it's a religion thing that has nothing to do with economic futures, or democracy.
We've just democratized Iraq... and it's not one leader seething with hate... it's a whole tribe of people, who refused to even participate in the democratic election.
I'm not trying to just be argumenative. I just don't buy the premis that creating democracies will win the war on terror.
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posted on
05/04/2005 7:08:24 PM PDT
by
kjam22
To: kjam22
Be argumentative, independent thought is always welcome.
I just don't buy the premis that creating democracies will win the war on terror.
With regards to a better future curbing a desire to rid the world of non-muslims, you may be right. However I remain committed to the idea that regional democracies provide intelligence and support opportunities that are yielding results.
Didn't we just get some big terrorist guy in Pakastan through this type of cooperation?
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