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To: knowledgeforfreedom
I think you are working hard to characterize this in a way that supports your position, but it's semantics as to whether the fallopian tube is 'diseased,' and removing that portion of the tube is a last resort, much less common than it used to be. The problem is the embryo - it has implanted in the wall of the tube. No embryo, no problem. Removing the embryo is curative.

In current practice, early ectopic pregnancies can often be treated without surgery. The patient is given medication, most commonly methotrexate, which kills the embryo. When surgery is needed, if at all possible surgeons don't remove the tube, in order to preserve future fertility for the woman. The surgeon will remove only the embryo and spare the fallopian tube.

I'm aware of the different "solutions" to the ectopic pregnancy problem. The Catholic Church condemns these type of procedures as immoral. All direct killing of other people, including misimplanted embryos, is wrong. The end does not justify the means - we are not Marxists. Nor does it matter that the end result of all curative procedures for ectopic pregnancies is a dead embryo - one must choose the moral method of dealing with the problem because we don't base moral decisions on consequences of actions, but upon the licity of the action itself.

You repeat this - did you see my post #269? The article you cited was part of a presentation about fraudulent articles.

Yes I saw that, but hadn't had time to respond or search elsewhere. I do have to work for a living. I provided a number of references to this many moons ago. Its unfortunate that was the first one that came up this time.

321 posted on 05/05/2005 11:16:17 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
CCC:

2263 The legitimate defense of persons and societies is not an exception to the prohibition against the murder of the innocent that constitutes intentional killing. "The act of self-defense can have a double effect: the preservation of one's own life; and the killing of the aggressor.... The one is intended, the other is not." 65

2264 Love toward oneself remains a fundamental principle of morality. Therefore it is legitimate to insist on respect for one's own right to life. Someone who defends his life is not guilty of murder even if he is forced to deal his aggressor a lethal blow:

If a man in self-defense uses more than necessary violence, it will be unlawful: whereas if he repels force with moderation, his defense will be lawful.... Nor is it necessary for salvation that a man omit the act of moderate self-defense to avoid killing the other man, since one is bound to take more care of one's own life than of another's. 66

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Obviously, an ectopic pregnancy is not an "aggressor" in any kind of culpable way, but the other life does indeed present a real and lethal threat.

SD

347 posted on 05/05/2005 12:02:52 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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