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No Apology, No Future - (stubborn Putin's unapologetic Russia losing it all)
TO THE POINT.COM ^ | MAY 1, 2005 | DR. JACK WHEELER

Posted on 05/01/2005 9:56:48 PM PDT by CHARLITE

Budapest, Hungary, October 1997. It was a gorgeous fall day, the sun sparkling off the Danube, the domed Royal Palace glinting on Buda Hill, smartly dressed shoppers strolling along the Vaci. Just a few years ago this place had been a fear-ridden Russian colony. Now everyone on the street was chattering away on a cell phone. Back in the Soviet days, only the Nomenklatura – the Communist elite – could get a telephone, and even they were terrified of talking freely.

I was in Budapest speaking to a conference of international business leaders. Another speaker was a Moscow television news commentator well-known in Russia, Boris Notkin. He informed his audience about how humiliated Russians felt, losing their Empire and the Cold War, not winning many medals in the Olympics, and having their Mir space station go belly-up. He warned of a dangerous anti-Americanism emerging among Russians, who resentfully blamed America for their problems.

A gray-haired gentleman with a Central European accent stood up and asked Boris a question: “In addition to their feelings of humiliation and resentment, do Russians have any feelings of remorse for inflicting Communism upon so many countries? After their defeat in World War II, the Germans apologized to the world for being Nazis and for the horrible atrocities Nazism committed. After their defeat in the Cold War, will the Russians ever apologize to the world for being Communists and the equally horrible atrocities Soviet Communism committed?”

Boris looked straight at the man and coldly answered, “No. Russians feel no remorse. They will not apologize.”

This past Monday, April 25, Russian President Vladimir Putin reaffirmed this absence of remorse and refusal to apologize for the genocidal horror perpetrated by Soviet Communism upon so many countries and peoples. In a nationally televised speech to the Russian Federal Assembly in Moscow, he declared that “the collapse of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century.”

The truth, of course, is that the existence of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical disaster of the 20th century

It was only because the Germans went through a mea culpa emotional purge of the Nazi poison that they were able to create a prosperous free market democracy. The Russians will never be able to do the same until they can summon the moral courage to say to the world, “We’re sorry.”

Until Russians can take responsibility for their history and stop blaming everyone else for it, they can never overcome it. Until they can admit they created a monstrously evil tyranny, they can never create a morally decent society. Until they can stop yearning for past imperial glory, their former colonies will always hate them, and never trust them.

For these colonies know that the “Soviet Union” was a fiction, a Hollywood-set country that didn’t really exist. What actually existed behind the façade was a Russian Imperial Empire with the secular religion of “Marxism-Leninism” as its ideological justification. The justification may be gone, but the dream of empire has not. This was confirmed by Putin asserting in his speech that “Russia should continue its civilizing mission on the Eurasian continent.”

Continue civilizing? The mass slaughter of millions, the Gulag concentration camps enslaving millions more, imprisoning a score of nations behind the Berlin Wall and the Iron Curtain – this is civilizing? Ask any Latvian, Lithuanian, Ukrainian, Pole, Czech, Hungarian, et al, and they’ll tell you Russia’s historic mission has been un-civilizing to the horrific extreme.

Thus Russia remains determined to march resolutely towards cultural and national extinction. Putin may fly off for photo-ops in Egypt and Israel this week, and have George Bush and other world leaders stand next to him in Red Square week after next (commemorating the 60th anniversary of the end of WWII) – but it’s all for show.

Because in the meantime, in spite of Russia’s being the world’s second largest oil producer (after Saudi Arabia), of all fifteen now-independent nations that once comprised the Soviet Union, Russia is next to last in current economic growth. Only Tajikistan is lower.

An extremely high-placed source in the Kremlin tells To The Point that capital flight has reached flood levels. The government’s public admission was that $8 billion flew out of Russia last year. “The true figure,” our source said, “is four times that: $32 billion. It will be much more this year.”

So no matter how much Pootie-Poot struts on the world stage or on Red Square, the disintegration of Russia and its influence will continue unabated. Just before he goes to Moscow, Bush will be in Riga meeting with the presidents of Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia, once “Republics” of the Soviet Union and now members of NATO; just after Moscow, Bush will be in Tbilisi meeting with the president of Georgia.

A central focus of both meetings will be to cooperate on ending the “last dictatorship in Europe,” that of Aleksandr Lukashenko in Belarus by exporting the “Orange Revolution” from Kiev to Minsk. This regime is the last ally of Russia’s on the entire European continent. Think about that. Soon, quite possibly before 2005 ends, Belarus will dump Lukashenko and Russia will be alone in Europe.

Russia doesn’t have to be. All she has to do is apologize. But she can’t. With no apology, there’s no future in Russia. A pure Greek tragedy based on an inescapable tragic flaw in the Russian character. Aeschylus and Sophocles would have understood.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Russia
KEYWORDS: apologyfor; atrocities; bush; celebration; communism; deaths; endofwwii; estonia; georgia; gulags; latvia; lithuania; millions; moscow; russia; starvation; ussr; vladimirputin

1 posted on 05/01/2005 9:56:52 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE
Until Russians can take responsibility for their history and stop blaming everyone else for it, they can never overcome it. Until they can admit they created a monstrously evil tyranny, they can never create a morally decent society.

I'm not so sure that "the Russians" actually had anything to do with it. The Germans embraced Nazism in its early days, and Hitler's party actually got its foot in the door through the ballot box. The same can't be said of Bolshevism, which took advantage of dire circumstances to more or less seize power. Once in power it used ruthless terror tactics to consolidate and spread that power. The Russian people become nothing more than hostages to a sick and bloodthirsty ideology.

2 posted on 05/02/2005 12:12:26 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
The Russian people become nothing more than hostages to a sick and bloodthirsty ideology.

That may be so, and I might even agree.

But then, why the present day reluctance to once an forever denounce and renounce imperial Communism and all it stood for? The Russians aren't hostages any more.

3 posted on 05/02/2005 12:20:47 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: John Valentine
But then, why the present day reluctance to once an forever denounce and renounce imperial Communism and all it stood for?

Probably for the same reason I don't renounce and denounce slavery or the injustices done to the American Indians. Not very nice things, those two, but I didn't have anything to do with them.

4 posted on 05/02/2005 12:23:47 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

You're right. This reminds me a little of Clinton apologizing for slavery or the pope apologizing for the crusades. I don't expect an apology, but nor do I expect them to lament the collapse of the Soviet Union, erect victory statues of Stalin, and deny the crimes of Katyn and the Holodomor.


5 posted on 05/02/2005 12:24:43 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: John Valentine
Here is the answer.

"Many people link their whole lives with Lenin's name. For them his burial would mean that they had bowed down to false values, set themselves false tasks and lived in vain." - Vladimir Putin

Unfortunately, they did. That is why Putin will not bury the Stalin cult in the garbage heap of history where it belongs either.

6 posted on 05/02/2005 12:29:42 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
This reminds me a little of Clinton apologizing for slavery or the pope apologizing for the crusades. I don't expect an apology, but nor do I expect them to lament the collapse of the Soviet Union, erect victory statues of Stalin, and deny the crimes of Katyn and the Holodomor.

They definitely need to face reality and start looking to the future. Times may be bad now, but they're probably only slightly worse than what they were in the last years of the Tsar. It's almost as if Fate were giving them the opportunity to go back to those days, sans the disruption of World War I, and get it right this time.

7 posted on 05/02/2005 1:09:25 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Probably for the same reason I don't renounce and denounce slavery or the injustices done to the American Indians. Not very nice things, those two, but I didn't have anything to do with them.

not you, but if you were 60 years in 1870 then you SHOULD have renounced those things -- that's the analogy.
8 posted on 05/02/2005 4:33:45 AM PDT by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: Cronos
... but if you were 60 years in 1870 then you SHOULD have renounced those things -- that's the analogy.

Here's the passage that I originally replied to:

Until Russians can take responsibility for their history and stop blaming everyone else for it, they can never overcome it. Until they can admit they created a monstrously evil tyranny, they can never create a morally decent society.

It would be one thing for everyday Russians to acknowledge and renounce the evil of what their leaders had done; quite another to apologize for it.

9 posted on 05/02/2005 4:54:51 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
I don't renounce and denounce slavery or the injustices done to the American Indians. Not very nice things, those two, but I didn't have anything to do with them.

Those atrocities took place in the nineteenth century, and it's true that you had nothing to do with them. But communism was still functioning in Russia only 15 years ago. Many of the people who live in Russia today were not only active Communist Party functionaries but would leap back into their positions of power instantly if they could. Many modern Russians long for a return of communism. For them, communism represents the good old days. Putin, the former KGB agent, is one of millions.

10 posted on 05/02/2005 6:21:19 AM PDT by Capriole (I don't have any problems that couldn't be solved by more chocolate or more ammunition)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Actually the first Soviet Duma or Parliament had very few "Russians" when the the Lenin monster was created.
11 posted on 05/02/2005 6:31:06 AM PDT by cynicom (<p)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Probably for the same reason I don't renounce and denounce slavery or the injustices done to the American Indians. Not very nice things, those two, but I didn't have anything to do with them.

The difference is that while slavery ended in the 19th century many of the perpetrators of the Communist atrocities are still alive and prospering. Putin, Yeltsin and Gorbachev were all part of this vicious system and deserve to be in prison, not in power or comfortable retirement. Many of the Gulag guards and commandants are alive and well as are numerous former KGB types. Who has been tried for war crimes committed in Afghanistan? No one.

The author of this piece is right. Until the Russians come to grips with their past they have no future.

12 posted on 05/02/2005 6:51:47 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us and pigs treat us as equals" Winston Churchill)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

There was also that little fact of a civil war that cost 5 million lives.


13 posted on 05/02/2005 1:46:22 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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14 posted on 05/02/2005 1:49:15 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Post #6 is a good point.

Red6


15 posted on 05/02/2005 1:55:47 PM PDT by Red6
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16 posted on 05/02/2005 2:04:57 PM PDT by lizol
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To: CHARLITE

I think that Russia should unequivocally condemn Communism and Stalinism as bloodthirsty ideologies and look honestly into its own history. Contemporary Russians can't be responsible for the crimes of Stalin. However, denying that crimes were committed is equally wrong and disgusting.


17 posted on 05/02/2005 2:29:08 PM PDT by sergey1973 (Russian American Political Blogger, Arm Chair Strategist)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
I would add to that that I personally would find it absolutely unacceptable to apologize for what Communists have done not only because I and my family and my friends had nothing to do with creating a "monstrously evil tyranny". The point is that many members of my family and many other Russians had actually fought against Communism by all means that were available to them. Two brothers of my granddad spent over 30 years in Gulag for being White officers. It was a miracle they were not shot on the spot and did not die of starvation. Several other members of the family was sent to Siberia because they were "rich". Yet some died of famine which Ukrainians claim was organized by Russians against Ukrainians (and they were NOT Ukrainians). Yet more relatives fled the country and we never saw them again although we new they settled in France and in the US. And now somebody has the nerve to tell ME I should APOLOGIZE? Never.

By the way, even if we resort to collective guilt based on one's ethnicity, Russians were not alone creating "a monstrously evil tyranny". There were 15 republics in the Former Soviet Union. All these republics were part of the Russian empire before, including the Baltic states. The citizens of all these now independent states, including the Baltic states, were more than instrumental in bringing Communism to power in Russia/USSR. If Russians are guilty for creating the evil dictatorship, so are all nations and nationalities of the former USSR, including Ukrainians and citizens of Baltic states. Why don't ask THEM to apologize?
18 posted on 05/05/2005 8:08:04 AM PDT by RussianBoor
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