Only four responses to this important thread?!!Are Texas FReepers asleep?
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Posted on 05/01/2005 6:05:03 PM PDT by anymouse
City, county groups accused of 'drowning out' taxpayers' calls for capping rates
Advocates for lower taxes say it is outrageous that associations representing cities and counties are paying lobbyists to fight legislation that would limit how much money local governments can raise from property taxes.
The four biggest groups in the fight are the Texas Municipal League, the Texas Association of Counties, the Texas Conference of Urban Counties and the Texas County Judges and Commissioners Association.
These groups are spending as much as $1.3 million on lobbying efforts this session.
So far, they have killed legislation to lower the cap on property appraisals. And they have strenuously fought against a measure to limit the growth of local government revenues from property taxes, saying it would cripple local government operations. That bill is up for House debate today.
"There is a worrisome conclusion that these groups are drowning out a citizens lobby in these types of firefights," said Harris County Tax Assessor/Collector Paul Bettencourt, referring to the local government associations as a "spending lobby."
But association executives say they represent locally elected officials who are fighting legislation that is bad public policy. They said it would cripple local governments as they deal with rising health care and fuel costs, rapid growth in some areas, declining population in other areas and a host of unfunded state and federal spending mandates.
"It completely takes away local control from a representative democracy," said Elna Christopher, of the Texas Association of Counties.
The House last week killed a proposed constitutional amendment to lower the cap on annual property-appraisal growth from 10 percent to 5 percent.
But a bill by state Rep. Carl Isett, R-Lubbock, to limit revenue growth for local governments was sent back to committee on a technicality. It comes back before the House today.
Currently, a local government's tax rate is subject to a rollback election if it grows by more than 8 percent. Isett's legislation, House Bill 1006, would lower that to 3 percent.
In his original bill, a local election on the tax rate would be automatic if growth exceeded 3 percent, but the House added an amendment requiring a petition drive to trigger an election.
Peggy Venable, state director of Americans for Prosperity, said taxpayers should be upset that associations representing local governments are working against legislation to slow the growth of property taxes.
"I didn't elect TML. I didn't elect TAC. Frankly, most taxpayers don't have a clue what they (the groups are) or what they do," Venable said.
"When there is legislation that is truly taxpayer-friendly, that gives us the opportunity to put our foot on the brake to slow down or stop increases in local spending — that is what they are opposing," she said. "That truly is our tax dollars at work."
Frank Sturzl, executive director of the Texas Municipal League, of which most cities are members, said no tax dollars are used for lobbying. He said all the money for lobbying comes from fees the league charges vendors at conferences and from associate member dues.
Associate members, Sturzl said, mostly are private companies that do business with city governments, including law firms that collect delinquent property taxes. Sturzl said none of the associate members has a say in setting TML policy.
"She (Venable) may be right. In every one of those (TML) cities there are some citizens for 1006, but I'm not sure they'd be for it if they knew everything we know about 1006," Sturzl said.
Sturzl said it is hard enough for cities to keep up with inflation, population growth and unfunded mandates. He said the cost of health insurance for municipal employees can outstrip a capped revenue growth.
Christopher said the Association of Counties also does not use tax dollars to pay for lobbying. She said the money comes from revenues from insurance pools the association manages for the counties and from associate memberships such as those at TML. Christopher said associate members do not set association policy.
Don Lee, head of the Texas Conference of Urban Counties, said member fees are used to pay his salary as he lobbies the Legislature against the bill. Harris County is a member.
Lee said local governments may oppose the low-tax proponents on House Bill 1006, but he said he also is fighting other legislation that would pass additional unfunded mandates along to local taxpayers.
"Peggy Venable wants us to work to keep property taxes down, which is what we do all the time, bill after bill," Lee said. "She wants our county governments to be there keeping those mandates down."
Venable said she does not want local tax dollars to be spent lobbying the Legislature.
"These are entities that are funded at least in part by tax dollars," Venable said.
"They very clearly have a very aggressive lobbying agenda, and whether I agree with it or not, I don't think they should be using tax dollars to promote that agenda."
Texas tax corruption ping.
The legislation was authored by my rep, ya'll, and it originated with my local city council made up of business-owners not politicians...
I am with you. It is timeto throw the tax ans spend rinos out of Austin.
Only four responses to this important thread?!!Are Texas FReepers asleep?
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So they limit the tax increase to 3%. No problem, they just increase valuations by 30% and make landowners go through the grist mill to prove that they pulled the numbers out of thin air.
The only year I've ever had a fair valuation is the year I bought my house and that was a slam dunk, I just went and showed them what I had paid for it. They had it valued at 30% more than I paid.
Bump!!
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It would be a waste of time for me. The big spenders rule here in TX. Thanks for the heads up.
I can hardly wait to see what tax scam they try here in Scam Diego (San Diego) with an over $1.5 billion pension fund deficit. My guess is that there will a gross receipts or city income tax on the horizon. My fellow Texas you have no idea of what oppressive taxation really is.
Property taxes are the most invidious of all taxes, they that levy them steal from that which is fast becoming worthless through aging all the while depleting the resources of the tenant to keep it habitable and, when it is forlorn and decrepit, the same theives send out the codes goons to force the now destitute to bring the decrepit mess up to it's imagined value.
Not asleep just lazy and leaderless!
We LOVE to pound on our keyboards and let off steam here on FreeRepublic but when it comes to actually DOING something...Well...That is another matter entirely! That would require developing a plan and following through on it! MUCH easier to just cry, bitch, and moan!
Thanks Meek.
We Texans should all be up in arms over this corrupt shadow government using our tax dollars to lobby our representatives to take even more of our tax dollars.
We can't toss em' out, but we can starve 'em out.
We LOVE to pound on our keyboards and let off steam here on FreeRepublic but when it comes to actually DOING something...Well...That is another matter entirely! That would require developing a plan and following through on it! MUCH easier to just cry, bitch, and moan!
Gulfbreeze, that sounds like a challenge. We need an Elliot Ness to clean out the Muni-gangs from Texas politics.
Bump for later read and reply
It should be pointed out that many of these local governments are the same ones that bitch and moan about people fleeing to the bedroom communities.
Please add me to you TX (At the stage it should be spelled Taxes) tax corruption ping list. Thank you.
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