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To: leftwingrightwingbrokenwing
Why not do trade with the Irans, Cubas, and North Koreas of the world?

All NK has to export is starving people, drugs, counterfeit currency, and weapons.

16 posted on 05/01/2005 12:49:33 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Minuteman at heart, couch potato in reality))
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To: Mister Baredog; varon; Avenger

"All NK has to export is starving people, drugs, counterfeit currency, and weapons."

More reason to lift the war on drugs...

"Capitalism in and of itself is cause of aggression. So what happens when the whole world practices capitalism and every nation competes for the finite resources? The one with the biggest stick will get the most. That's the way it's been and that's the way it will be."

You sure your a conservative? Perhaps you are a visiting liberal...cool with me either way..anyway in argument for capitalism...capitalist nations are the most efficient societies. The places with the best environments are the first world nations, where techonology has improved the environment, and third world nations, where there isn't enough industry to cause pollutions. The developing nations are the biggest polluters...but once they become first world...it will get better there as well. What does this have to do with fighting for resources, when every nation becomes first world...they will all use resources efficiently. Of course there would have to be growing pains.

"IT IS caving to Dictators. You don't spread freedom and democracy by giving in to and propping up dictators who want to destroy us."

You don't do it with violent government assisted coups either. It's just temporary change. For example, I hope the best for Iraq, but I just don't think that democracy is going to last due to the method of doing so. There were no grass roots..you just planted sod on a desert..and that sod will die. You don't change minds with violence, you are just coercing them. And also..what is the sense of denying new friends?

"15 years ago Chinese students were willing to die for democracy. Today Chinese students are willing to die to get a Japanese head on a pike. 15 years ago Chinese students erected a replica of the statue of Liberty. Today they revile the United States and couldn't care less about democratic reforms as long as they can get a good job and a nice car. Dreams of democracy have given way to dreams of Asian domination and superpower status. The recent prosperity in China has given the CCP a new mandate among the people and enabled them to build up their military to a point that it has become a threat to U.S. interests and U.S. allies in the region. You want to extend that model to Iran, Cuba, and North Korea?"

Well it appears to be nationalistic BS on both sides doesn't it? The collective idea of superiority and domination. Anyway, I thought this was about freedom and promoting democracy rather than promoting US interests, and the Chinese people are now better off than they were 15 years ago. Give it time...China will become a democracy that will stand the test of time in a couple generations. The grass roots are in..we just have to let them go.



34 posted on 05/01/2005 2:07:25 PM PDT by leftwingrightwingbrokenwing (vitriolic libertarian)
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