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Time to Retire the Filibuster [NYT Editorial 1-1-95] (A must read)
US Congressional Record ^ | 1-1-1995 | ??

Posted on 04/27/2005 5:16:17 PM PDT by OXENinFLA

[FROM THE NEW YORK TIMES, JAN. 1, 1995]

Time to Retire the Filibuster

The U.S. Senate likes to call itself the world's greatest deliberative body. The greatest obstructive body is more like it. In the last season of Congress, the Republican minority invoked an endless string of filibusters to frustrate the will of the majority. This relentless abuse of a time-honored Senate tradition so disgusted Senator Tom Harkin, a Democrat from Iowa, that he is now willing to forgo easy retribution and drastically limit the filibuster. Hooray for him.

For years Senate filibusters--when they weren't conjuring up romantic images of Jimmy Stewart as Mr. Smith, passing out from exhaustion on the Senate floor--consisted mainly of negative feats of endurance. Senator Sam Ervin once spoke for 22 hours straight. Outrage over these tactics and their ability to bring Senate business to a halt led to the current so-called two-track system, whereby a senator can hold up one piece of legislation while other business goes on as usual.

The two-track system has been nearly as obstructive as the old rules. Under those rules, if the Senate could not muster the 60 votes necessary to end debate and bring a bill to a vote, someone had to be willing to continue the debate, in person, on the floor. That is no longer required. Even if the 60 votes are not achieved, debate stops and the Senate proceeds with other business. The measure is simply put on hold until the next cloture vote. In this way a bill can be stymied at any number of points along its legislative journey.

One unpleasant and unforeseen consequence has been to make the filibuster easy to invoke and painless to pursue. Once a rarely used tactic reserved for issues on which senators held passionate convictions, the filibuster has become the tool of the sore loser, dooming any measure that cannot command the 60 required votes.

Mr. Harkin, along with Senator Joseph Lieberman, a Connecticut Democrat, now proposes to make such obstruction harder. Mr. Harkin says reasonably that there must come a point in the process where the majority rules. This may not sit well with some of his Democratic colleagues. They are now perfectly positioned to exact revenge by frustrating the Republican agenda as efficiently as Republicans frustrated Democrats in 1994.

Admirably, Mr. Harkin says he does not want to do that. He proposes to change the rules so that if a vote for cloture fails to attract the necessary 60 votes, the number of votes needed to close off debate would be reduced by three in each subsequent vote. By the time the measure came to a fourth vote--with votes occurring no more frequently than every second day--cloture could be invoked with only a simple majority. Under the Harkin plan, minority members who feel passionately about a given measure could still hold it up, but not indefinitely.

Another set of reforms, more incremental but also useful, is proposed by George Mitchell, who is retiring as the Democratic majority leader. He wants to eat away at some of the more annoying kinds of brakes that can be applied to a measure along its legislative journey.

One example is the procedure for sending a measure to a conference committee with the House. Under current rules, unless the Senate consents unanimously to send a measure to conference, three separate motions can be required to move it along. This gives one senator the power to hold up a measure almost indefinitely. Mr. Mitchell would like to reduce the number of motions to one.

He would also like to limit the debate on a motion to two hours and count the time consumed by quorum calls against the debate time of a senator, thus encouraging senators to save their time for debating the substance of a measure rather than in obstruction. All of his suggestions seem reasonable, but his reforms would leave the filibuster essentially intact.

The Harkin plan, along with some of Mr. Mitchell's proposals, would go a long way toward making the Senate a more productive place to conduct the nation's business. Republicans surely dread the kind of obstructionism they themselves practiced during the last Congress. Now is the perfect moment for them to unite with like-minded Democrats to get rid of an archaic rule that frustrates democracy and serves no useful purpose.


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: dhpl; filibuster; nyt; obstruction; ussenate
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Note to MODS: I know we're supposed to excerpt the NYT but this is from the Congressional Record and is public domain.

1 posted on 04/27/2005 5:16:21 PM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...
PING...
2 posted on 04/27/2005 5:17:07 PM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA
Somebody ping the New York Times.

Oh....wait.

3 posted on 04/27/2005 5:19:21 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: OXENinFLA
Has the Slimes recently opined about the filibuster?
4 posted on 04/27/2005 5:19:33 PM PDT by CaptainK
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To: OXENinFLA

Good find! You should send it on to Rush and Hannity.


5 posted on 04/27/2005 5:19:47 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Mutually assured destruction STILL keeps the Clinton administration criminals out of jail.)
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To: OXENinFLA

6 posted on 04/27/2005 5:20:45 PM PDT by Petronski (Pope Benedict XVI: A German Shepherd on the Throne of Peter)
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To: CaptainK

Yeah looks like it.


http://www.progressforamerica.com/1101-361.1101-031005A.html

Filibusters, Then and Now

03/10/2005

Senator John Cornyn
New York Times

"The Senate on the Brink" (editorial, March 6) supports the "historic role of the filibuster," which is a curious position for a newspaper that 10 years ago said filibusters were "the tool of the sore loser" and should be eliminated ("Time to Retire the Filibuster," editorial, Jan. 1, 1995).

Federal judicial appointments have certainly been controversial, but surely all Americans can agree that the rules for confirming judges should be the same regardless of which party has a majority.

Now you praise the filibuster as a "time-honored Senate procedure." In 1995, when Bill Clinton was president, you called it "an archaic rule that frustrates democracy and serves no useful purpose."

You disparage the Republicans' view that 51 votes should be enough for judicial confirmation. Yet the 51-vote rule is a consistent Senate tradition. By calling for an end to filibusters, the Senate is simply contemplating restoring its traditions by traditional methods you disparage as "nuclear," even though they were once endorsed by such leading Democrats as Senators Edward M. Kennedy, Charles E. Schumer and Robert C. Byrd.


7 posted on 04/27/2005 5:21:26 PM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA

My head is spinning and I feel faint. Even MY sizable brain is overloaded and cannot process the overdose of Mega-Hypocrisy and massive deceit from the NY Times and the democrats.


8 posted on 04/27/2005 5:22:01 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: OXENinFLA
The filibuster has become the tool of the sore loser...

That's my favorite part of this editorial.

9 posted on 04/27/2005 5:22:23 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: OXENinFLA
Absolutely perfect
10 posted on 04/27/2005 5:23:43 PM PDT by colonialhk (sooprize sooprize sooprize)
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To: OXENinFLA
the filibuster has become the tool of the sore loser

Worth repeating

11 posted on 04/27/2005 5:24:35 PM PDT by jwalburg (If I have not seen as far as others, it is because of the giants standing on my shoulders.)
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To: Thud

ping


12 posted on 04/27/2005 5:24:45 PM PDT by Dark Wing
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To: OXENinFLA

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13 posted on 04/27/2005 5:24:57 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: OXENinFLA

It's like deja vue all over again....


14 posted on 04/27/2005 5:25:51 PM PDT by b4its2late (Junk is something you've kept for years and throw away three weeks before you need it.)
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To: 68skylark

I wish Mitch McConnell would read this in the Senate tomorrow--

Or, better yet, have Bush read it tomorrow night before his press conference-----LOL


15 posted on 04/27/2005 5:27:09 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice!)
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To: OXENinFLA

What have we proved? That the NYT are partisan hacks? Like we haven't known all along!


16 posted on 04/27/2005 5:27:28 PM PDT by The Great Yazoo ("Happy is the boy who discovers the bent of his life-work during childhood." Sven Hedin)
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To: OXENinFLA

Lucy ya got some splanin to do! Democrats doing what Democrats to, take every side of an issue.


17 posted on 04/27/2005 5:27:44 PM PDT by agincourt1415 (4 More Years of NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN!)
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To: MamaLucci
I came across it while looking into THIS. Be sure to scroll down a few posts to read the amendment.
18 posted on 04/27/2005 5:29:18 PM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA

OUTSTANDING POST.

Cheers,

knews hound


19 posted on 04/27/2005 5:30:27 PM PDT by knews_hound (Out of the NIC ,into the Router, out to the Cloud....Nothing but 'Net)
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To: Txsleuth

Bookmarked.

Here's an idea. Delete the party reference and the names of the senators involved. Post it around libs as a New York Times editorial and see what they say.

Then spring the trap on them - that it was 10 years ago when Democrats wanted to use the nuclear option (or a variation of it).

I like Senator Harkin's proposal and I think we need to endorse it as "Senator Harkin's proposal", thus claiming "bi-partisan support" for the idea. We can even proclaim it a "compromise" from the "nuclear option". Yeah, I love it!


20 posted on 04/27/2005 5:31:22 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (If you can think 180-degrees apart from reality, you might be a Democrat.)
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