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LIVE THREAD U.S. Senate Debate on Judiciary
CSpan ^ | 4/27/2005

Posted on 04/27/2005 7:02:09 AM PDT by katieanna

Jim Talent of Missouri currently speaking. John Cornyn on deck. Fifteen minutes remaining for the majority.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; filibuster; judiciary; ussenate
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To: Bahbah

Damn, glad I turn it off!


121 posted on 04/27/2005 9:13:04 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: Bahbah
Good!

Liddy pointed out a Dem Lie and they will NOT ban ALL filibusters

It will stay the same regarding legislation

122 posted on 04/27/2005 9:14:01 AM PDT by Mo1 (Hey GOP ---- Not one Dime till Republicans grow a Spine !!)
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To: katieanna

On to other Senate business.


So this morning was nothing more than more bloviating by both sides.


123 posted on 04/27/2005 9:14:54 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy
On to other Senate business.

Not so fast .. Durbin is up talking about the Nuke Option now

Blaming Trent Lott for coming up with the name

Now bringing up Jimmy Stewart in Mr. Smith goes to Washington .. AGAIN

124 posted on 04/27/2005 9:17:50 AM PDT by Mo1 (Hey GOP ---- Not one Dime till Republicans grow a Spine !!)
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To: OXENinFLA
Oh nice

Durbin basically just called Hatch a Liar

Says Hatch is suffering from amnesia (sp?)

125 posted on 04/27/2005 9:25:25 AM PDT by Mo1 (Hey GOP ---- Not one Dime till Republicans grow a Spine !!)
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To: Carolinamom

algore should be speaking now, according to the press release. I checked C-SPAN 3 but they're covering the steroid issue, (yawn).

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=46348

WHO: Former Vice President Al Gore

MoveOn PAC

WHAT: Policy speech on judicial nominations

When: Wednesday, April 27 at noon

Where: Hyatt Regency Washington on Capitol Hill

400 New Jersey Avenue, NW (between D and E Streets on New Jersey Ave, NW), Washington D.C.


126 posted on 04/27/2005 9:29:12 AM PDT by maggief
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To: YaYa123

Has he cursed any yet?


127 posted on 04/27/2005 9:30:11 AM PDT by cubreporter ( hav)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

One of my favorites, Senator Inhofe, up now.


128 posted on 04/27/2005 9:31:16 AM PDT by MamaLucci (Mutually assured destruction STILL keeps the Clinton administration criminals out of jail.)
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To: TomGuy
Durbin just threatened ti shut down the Senate again


Says that the dems would actually read the bill brought to the floor
129 posted on 04/27/2005 9:31:29 AM PDT by Mo1 (Hey GOP ---- Not one Dime till Republicans grow a Spine !!)
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To: Mo1

Darn, I missed it.


130 posted on 04/27/2005 9:36:45 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: MamaLucci

God Bless Senator Inhofe!!! He's telling it like it is. That the democrats are cloaking themselves in the non-existent glory of defending the constitution, and protecting the honor of the senate, when that's far from their goal.

Their goal is to destroy President Bush.


131 posted on 04/27/2005 9:37:39 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@Democrats Are Such Phonies.com)
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132 posted on 04/27/2005 10:18:45 AM PDT by firewalk
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To: TomGuy

FoxNews Alert.....

What, didn't they give us the lowdown on how he's dressed?!!


133 posted on 04/27/2005 10:34:05 AM PDT by rockrr (Revote or Revolt! It's up to you Washington!)
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To: Kerretarded

A DEMOCRAT instituted Rule 22, cloture, in 1917.



How did they end debate prior to Rule 22?..... any idea? It seems based upon a cloture rule that prior to cloture the debate could continue as long as they wanted with no way to end it outside of the opposition ceasing to talk....


134 posted on 04/27/2005 1:07:30 PM PDT by deport (A good time to keep your mouth shut is when you're in deep water.)
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To: deport

You are correct. There was no way to end debate. I am not even arguing that the cloture rule was bad. It just pisses me off that the Democrats are whining now when they have done what they damn well pleased in the past.


135 posted on 04/27/2005 2:02:20 PM PDT by Eagle of Liberty ("Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind." —Albert Einstein)
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To: Kerretarded

The democrats are the ones that have brought the process of ending a filibuster into the rules. Then they lowered the number necessary to bring cloture and now are objecting to a futher lowering of that number to a majority for judicial nominees...

Yep they are whining and will lose this one at some point. I think Sen. Frist needs to go ahead and get the nominees on the floor for debate so that this thing can be taken care of prior to a SCOTUS nominee becoming involved. This entire process also helps the democrats when and if they ever become a simple majority in the Senate again. It cuts both ways and is the way it should be.

The Republicans have basically sided with the idea that a nominee once out of committee should be entitled to a up/down vote. Thus outside of the bipartisan Fortas filibuster there haven't been filibusters of judicial appointments.


136 posted on 04/27/2005 2:44:24 PM PDT by deport (A good time to keep your mouth shut is when you're in deep water.)
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To: deport; Kerretarded
How did they end debate prior to Rule 22?..... any idea? It seems based upon a cloture rule that prior to cloture the debate could continue as long as they wanted with no way to end it outside of the opposition ceasing to talk...

Good history in this article. It's not an easy read, but does hit on parts of Senate parliamentary procedure, as well as the variety of parliamentary moves that have been used to end debate.

The Senate has been dysfunctional for a long time.

http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Gold_Gupta_JLPP_article.pdf

137 posted on 04/27/2005 2:47:14 PM PDT by Cboldt
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Reid and Durbin are on the Senate floor chit chatting back and forth on the record as to why the present rules are fine and why the GOP intention is not a good system for advancing the republic.
138 posted on 04/27/2005 2:51:15 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Maria S

Plain spoken? You mean like saying maybe Bryan Nichols was set off by judicial activism?


139 posted on 04/27/2005 2:52:39 PM PDT by lugsoul ("maybe those who are defending this judicial murder could be said to be WORSE than Nazis." - EV)
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To: katieanna
Last night the majority leader said there would be nominations on the floor for votes this week. He did not say 'judicial' nominations, though. I still don't know when the votes will be.

Is there a record of this anywhere on the board or a transcript? First I've heard this and would be interested in further sources relating it.

140 posted on 04/27/2005 3:12:21 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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