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Microsoft: 'Trusted Windows' still coming, trust us
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| 04/25/2005
| Ina Fried
Posted on 04/25/2005 5:39:47 AM PDT by r5boston
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posted on
04/25/2005 5:39:54 AM PDT
by
r5boston
To: rdb3; chance33_98; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Bush2000; PenguinWry; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; ...
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posted on
04/25/2005 5:41:57 AM PDT
by
ShadowAce
(Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
To: r5boston
The hardware is not going to let you boot that software" Buy some stock in a tech-support company. NOW!
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posted on
04/25/2005 5:43:09 AM PDT
by
Izzy Dunne
(Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
To: r5boston
...and there is a way for us to do full-volume encryption." He makes it sound like this is a new thing. Linux has had this feature for quite a while now.
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posted on
04/25/2005 5:45:00 AM PDT
by
ShadowAce
(Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
To: Izzy Dunne
I have that problem on a regular basis now!
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posted on
04/25/2005 5:46:21 AM PDT
by
SlowBoat407
(I'm not nearklym drunk enough tom deal with it. - FReeper Wormwood, 4/18/05)
To: SlowBoat407
"The hardware is not going to let you boot that software, and there is a way for us to do full-volume encryption."I have that problem on a regular basis now!
(Helps to include the quote I'm responding to.)
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posted on
04/25/2005 5:48:53 AM PDT
by
SlowBoat407
(I'm not nearklym drunk enough tom deal with it. - FReeper Wormwood, 4/18/05)
To: ShadowAce
He makes it sound like this is a new thing. Yeah, OS X has had the same thing.
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posted on
04/25/2005 5:57:27 AM PDT
by
Izzy Dunne
(Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
To: ShadowAce
May be. But I don't see LINUX advertised as the
basic operating system in any of the new computers.
Gates has sold his products to the manufacturers
so well worldwide that none of the BIG CPU mfrs.
are going to touch Linux. As I understand the
issue, Linux is very popular with those puterphobes
who like to build their own machine from motherboard
up.
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posted on
04/25/2005 6:10:30 AM PDT
by
Grendel9
To: ShadowAce
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posted on
04/25/2005 6:10:36 AM PDT
by
twntaipan
(demonRATs: The true heirs of Eichman)
To: Grendel9
...none of the BIG CPU mfrs. are going to touch Linux. As I understand the issue, Linux is very popular with those puterphobes who like to build their own machine from motherboard up. Hmmm. Where to start....
The Big CPU manufacturers? Like Intel? AMD? IBM? Apple? Linux runs perfectly on all of those. What kind of comment is that?
"puterphobes? People afraid of computers? Perhaps you mean "puterphiles." Still not correct these days, though, as there are quite a few Linux distros that are very user-friendly. Heck, my 6-yr-old likes to boot up Linux to play some of his games. The only thing I did for him was create his user account. He's learned everything else on his own.
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posted on
04/25/2005 6:45:01 AM PDT
by
ShadowAce
(Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
To: Grendel9
But I don't see LINUX advertised as the basic operating system in any of the new computers. So, that's a reason to write the article as if MS invented the stuff?
As I understand the issue, Linux is very popular with those puterphobes who like to build their own machine from motherboard up.
I've never met a computerphobe who did that...
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posted on
04/25/2005 6:52:24 AM PDT
by
Izzy Dunne
(Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
To: Grendel9
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posted on
04/25/2005 6:56:25 AM PDT
by
ShadowAce
(Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
To: Izzy Dunne
So, that's a reason to write the article as if MS invented the stuff? M$ told the "journalist" that they did [invent it], and so that's what the "journalist" wrote down. It's called Tech Journalism 101. If it's in a M$ press release, it goes in the story.
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posted on
04/25/2005 7:05:59 AM PDT
by
jbloedow
To: ShadowAce
Heck, my 6-yr-old likes to boot up Linux Now you've done it. I can see it coming:
"Linux is for six-year-olds. A REAL man wants a REAL OS. < grunt >"
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posted on
04/25/2005 7:12:42 AM PDT
by
Izzy Dunne
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To: r5boston
If you lose your laptop in a taxi, no one is going to get at your data," Windows chief Jim Allchin said in a recent interview. "The hardware is not going to let you boot that software, and there is a way for us to do full-volume encryption. How interestin'! OS X has had the ability to encrypt all data in the user's directory space since Panther (10.3) and the ability to prevent external boot-up (via password lock in Open Firmware app) since 10.0.
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posted on
04/25/2005 7:15:17 AM PDT
by
6SJ7
To: ShadowAce
I accidentally erased all my puterphiles.
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posted on
04/25/2005 7:15:40 AM PDT
by
js1138
(e unum pluribus)
To: r5boston
From later in the article... <>blockquote>
But Wilson would offer no road map for how Microsoft gets from its fairly narrow secure boot-up feature to its broad concept of a more secure way to run sensitive code within Windows.
"We are continuing to work on other aspects of the vision," Wilson said. "The timing schedule is still being worked out."
So. Two years later and it's still vaporware. I feel for anyone who has to create chips to work with MS stuff. I suppose MS is paying them hard cash to become one with the collective.
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posted on
04/25/2005 7:21:46 AM PDT
by
zeugma
(Come to the Dark Side...... We have cookies! (Made from the finest girlscouts!))
To: 6SJ7
Alright, guys, as a Mac user, I think we should let MS guys discuss this without any jabs from us. I mean, what if we started a thread talking about some wonderful new thing in Tiger, and they came on and started talking about how Longhorn had it before Tiger?
Okay, bad example.
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posted on
04/25/2005 7:26:46 AM PDT
by
SlowBoat407
(I'm not nearklym drunk enough tom deal with it. - FReeper Wormwood, 4/18/05)
To: Izzy Dunne
"Linux is for six-year-olds. A REAL man wants a REAL OS. < grunt >" LOL! Then let 'em use LFS.
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posted on
04/25/2005 7:27:07 AM PDT
by
ShadowAce
(Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
To: 6SJ7
How interestin'! OS X has had the ability to encrypt all data in the user's directory space since Panther (10.3) and the ability to prevent external boot-up (via password lock in Open Firmware app) since 10.0. That's not what he's talking about. Windows has supported encrypted filesystems since Win2K - you know, that version that was released five years before 10.3 - and BIOS boot passwords are older than the hills on x86 machines.
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posted on
04/25/2005 7:40:47 AM PDT
by
general_re
("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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