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To: Publius6961
S 61 wasn't the finished product - all that matters is what appears under the 14th Amendment, and the language therein is explicit:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

Let's leave the fanciful interpretation thing to others, shall we?

The only question here is who is subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.

I can't answer for conditions back in 1812, but as of today, my understanding of American jurisdiction relevant to this matter is that it encompasses the area within our National borders, excluding foreign embassies and the like, so any children born of the 9-11 hijackers on our soil would become citizens, and it is that same understanding of jurisdiction which has allowed Zaccharias Moussaoui, a French citizen, to be arrested on our soil and tried in our courts - he has plainly fallen under our jurisdiction.

60 posted on 04/24/2005 4:14:09 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
And the Supreme Court has agreed to hear the case of Jose Ernesto Medellin wherein local authorities must notify the Mexican government when they are charging one of its citizens with a crime so that the suspect will have access to the legal resources provided by that government's consulate or embassy. That makes them not "subject to the full jurisdiction" of the United States as this gives them rights not available to United States citizens does it not?
66 posted on 04/24/2005 10:56:35 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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