Posted on 04/19/2005 5:03:46 PM PDT by wagglebee
Good points, Alouette. I've been a Christian all of my life (I'll be 50 in a few months), and I can only recall once where someone called the Jewish people "Christ killers". That person was roundly reamed and rebuked by everyone in no uncertain terms. As someone in the group put it so well, "the sins of every one of us drove the nails into Christ...every one of us, regardless of our background, and Christ said He voluntarily laid down His Life for all of us." BAM!
If Ed Koch had ever been baptized, he would be a better Catholic than you.
' Who died and left you God to sit in judgment on JP II? I thought not.
He put out a paper (I can't find it, either,) showing clearly the commonalities in the Jewish and Catholic belief systems, I think through Cong/Doc/Faith.
About 7-10 years ago, IIRC.
Ben Stein was VERY interested in the paper at the time.
LOL.
Than you've never been to Chicago. I grew up there and heard it plenty. :)
The only time I've heard the term "Christ-killers" here in Milwaukee (in my somewhat faulty and aging memory) was in a sermon denouncing the idiots who used the term...
With no disrespect meant, I wanted to pass along a thought offered by a friend during Bible study last night. He referred to the new Pope as "The German Shepherd".
Now that I am in California, they simply shout a few other choice epethets like "kike", or "f***ing Jew". Although, I was treated to "Springtime for Hitler" while at the supermarket a few years ago.
You sure have a lot of luck when you pick a neighborhood to live in, don't you?
Just lucky, I guess.
Do you think anybody at the NY Slimes actually took the time to find out EXACTLY what the Hitler Youth program was:
The Hitler Youth was a logical extension of Hitler's belief that the future of Nazi Germany was its children. The Hitler Youth was seen as being as important to a child as school was. In the early years of the Nazi government, Hitler had made it clear as to what he expected German children to be like:
"The weak must be chiselled away. I want young men and women who can suffer pain. A young German must be as swift as a greyhound, as tough as leather, and as hard as Krupp's steel."
Nazi education schemes part fitted in with this but Hitler wanted to occupy the minds of the young in Nazi Germany even more.
Movements for youngsters were part of German culture and the Hitler Youth had been created in the 1920's. By 1933 its membership stood at 100,000. After Hitler came to power, all other youth movements were abolished and as a result the Hitler Youth grew quickly. In 1936, the figure stood at 4 million members. In 1936, it became all but compulsory to join the Hitler Youth. Youths could avoid doing any active service if they paid their subscription but this became all but impossible after 1939.
The Hitler Youth catered for 10 to 18 year olds. There were separate organisations for boys and girls. The task of the boys section was to prepare the boys for military service. For girls, the organisation prepared them for motherhood.
Boys at 10, joined the Deutsches Jungvolk (German Young People) until the age of 13 when they transferred to the Hitler Jugend (Hitler Youth) until the age of 18. In 1936, the writer J R Tunus wrote about the activities of the Hitler Jugend. He stated that part of their "military athletics" (Wehrsport) included marching, bayonet drill, grenade throwing, trench digging, map reading, gas defence, use of dugouts, how to get under barbed wire and pistol shooting.
Girls, at the age of 10, joined the Jungmadelbund (League of Young Girls) and at the age of 14 transferred to the Bund Deutscher Madel (League of German Girls). Girls had to be able to run 60 metres in 14 seconds, throw a ball 12 metres, complete a 2 hour march, swim 100 metres and know how to make a bed.
To the outside world, the Hitler Youth seemed to personify German discipline. In fact, this image was far from accurate. School teachers complained that boys and girls were so tired from attending evening meetings of the Hitler Youth, that they could barely stay awake the next day at school. Also by 1938, attendance at Hitler Youth meetings was so poor - barely 25% - that the authorities decided to tighten up attendance with the 1939 law making attendance compulsory.
Actually, except for the weather- Chicago is a wonderful town.
Out of curiously, what denomination of "Christian" were you dealing with? I hang with the Non Orthodox and non Catholic types of Christianity
I am not too sure. One may meet small minded people anywhere you go. I knew a huge number of Lutherans, Catholics, and Greek Orthodox. I actually was treated to more outright name-calling in Santa Monica (Califonia) than any other place I have been to.
Putting my opinion out here, with many others...Alouette, I'm a Christian and have NEVER been taught that, nor have I ever felt it, nor do I know others who do.
We're with you, as you are with us, all the way. ;)
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