-Eric
Posted on 04/16/2005 11:49:10 PM PDT by huac
"...For those on Capitol Hill, the Pentagon and at the White House who think that women in land combat is a ho-hum non-issue, there is strong evidence the U.S. lost the opportunity to capture or kill Osama bin Laden because of politically correct Pentagon policies to have more female warriors..."
(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...
For those on Capitol Hill, the Pentagon and at the White House who think that women in land combat is a ho-hum non-issue, there is strong evidence the U.S. lost the opportunity to capture or kill Osama bin Laden because of politically correct Pentagon policies to have more female warriors.
Here is how the story unfolds:
At the end of 2001, a relatively jury-rigged combination of Afghan fighters, American military advisers and U.S. air power was the tool used to hopefully corner and destroy the most wanted criminal on the planet - then believed cowering in the remote, mountainous Tora Bora region of Afghanistan.
Bin Laden was last seen heading out of the Afghan city of Jalalabad toward Tora Bora in a convoy on Nov. 15, 2001. U.S. officials even thought they'd heard him on a local radio transmission in Tora Bora in December.
It may have been the best and last chance to grab chief terrorist thug bin Laden, the architect of 9/11, who infamously remains at large despite huge bounties on his head and a U.S. intelligence machine that gobbles billions.
A Pakistani official later suggested that some 4,000 al-Qaida members escaped - although it isn't clear whether bin Laden and his top aide, Ayman al Zawahiri, were among them.
At that critical moment, one well-connected military source says the U.S. was unable to commit desperately needed personnel because women had been mixed into units that were at strong risk of seeing combat.
Elaine Donnelly, president of the Committee for Military Readiness, tells NewsMax the troubling story never before revealed to the media:
"Even though I was not sworn to secrecy, I did not publicize it at the time. My source was confidential, but I can tell you that he was a close aide to then-Army Secretary Thomas White.
"I happened to be introduced to this gentleman in December 2001 when I had dinner with friends at the Army/Navy Club in Washington D.C. Just before Christmas, he looked me up through the friend who introduced us, and told me this:
"'A meeting had taken place in December 2001, among top military planners, to consider ways to accelerate the war against the Taliban and Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan...'"
Donnelly notes here that such meetings frequently took place at Carlysle Barracks in Penn., especially during the early stages of the war. People invited to attend usually did not discuss what was said. Coalition Forces had few resources on the ground, and intelligence was critical, she adds.
Donnelly continues:
"My source told me that during one of those December strategy meetings, military planners were throwing out lots of ideas for innovations to rout the Taliban - including unmanned recon aircraft that later were armed with missiles.
"The terrain of Afghanistan made it an ideal potential testing ground for the yet-to-be-deployed Reconnaissance, Surveillance, Target Acquisition [RSTA] squadrons of what were then called "Interim" (now Stryker) Brigade Combat Teams [SBCTs]. The squadrons are designed to work with local people, and to fight for information on the ground, if necessary."
Donnelly says the source disclosed that someone came up with the idea of sending some of the RSTA troops over there early - more than a year before scheduled deployment - in order to learn some "real-time" lessons under fire.
And herein the bombshell: "The idea was squelched, however, because someone mentioned that there were female soldiers being trained in the first of these outfits, being formed at Fort Lewis, Washington.
As the history of that early campaign in Afghanistan records, instead of sending the RSTAs early, Special Forces units did the job on horseback. The first RSTA squadron didn't deploy to Iraq with its eyes-and-ears SBCT until October 2003.
Essentially, U.S. ground troops without the reconnaissance component were partially blinded in their efforts to hunt down bin Laden and his gang because p.c. Pentagon officials had placed women into the reconnaissance ranks - a clear violation of Congressional rules.
Donnelly continues:
"I was already aware of the co-ed RSTA training earlier that year because another source, Maj. Gen. Thomas Cole, USA (Ret.), who lives near that base, had given me a tip that the training was going on in the late summer of 2001.
"I knew it was out of line, and brought it to the attention of Rep. Roscoe Bartlett, who started raising questions about it with the Pentagon in a letter signed by 27 members of Congress."
Early in 2002, several other conservative women's groups joined with Donnelly at a news conference in Washington, drawing attention to the violation of rules on women in combat, and calling for the DoD to abolish the old Defense Advisory Committee on Women in the Services (DACOWITS), which was apparently behind it all.
"Nothing was done, however, until I brought the matter to the attention of Deputy Secretary Dr. Paul Wolfowitz during a meeting in his office in April 2002. I told him about what had happened in December, and waited to see what he would say. He asked his aide to check it out, and he did.
"Two days later I was told that my information was accurate, and that the situation would be corrected. On April 26, 2002, Lt. Gen. John M. LeMoyne gave the order to reassign the women being trained in the RSTA squadron at Fort Lewis, restoring the program to compliance with law and policy."
What now confounds Donnelly is the fact that despite all the controversy about the RSTAs in 2001, which was resolved in favor of compliance with law and policy, the Army has now dropped the RSTAs from the list of units that are supposed to be coded all-male.
Donnelly also directs NewsMax's attention to a telling August 2, 2001 memorandum, signed by Gen. B. B. Bell, then-Commander of Armor Command at Fort Knox, KY, which forcefully opposed mixed-gender assignments in the IBCT/RSTA Surveillance Troop. Bell wrote:
"The RSTA squadron operates as part of the Interim Brigade Combat Team (IBCT) which is a full spectrum, early entry combat force designed to conduct operations against conventional or unconventional enemy forces in all types of terrain and climate conditions... [T]he squadron's ISR [Intelligence, Surveillance & Reconnaissance] assets will operate in direct contact with enemy forces with the imminent likelihood of combat throughout the Squadron battle-space... This mission directly meets the Department of Defense definition of 'direct ground combat."
Bell was the man in charge who knew the score.
Donnelly concludes that the recent remarks by Army Chief of Staff Peter Shoomaker tacitly endorsing a new breed of women warriors is more than an object for moral reflection on the weaker sex's role in the fighting and dying, but a tactical mistake that can have the highest costs to the nation's security."
Be advised, this is a copy of the 16 April 2005 Newsmax Insider Report, which is sent via e-mail. It doesn't have a link yet.
-Eric
If woman were built tough like She-ra? the 80's cartoon warrior female chick, then it would be ok for them to fight. It's best to let the guys do the fighting.
Are the cammo babes in the background his bodyguards or his harem? Or both?
Ah ha, Khadafy and his phalanx of foxes.
Surprised that the article doesn't allege that the women were applying makeup when Bin Laden escaped. Newsmax is a rag.
I don't see that they are blaming women. It looks to me that the blame is attributed to people who look to keep women out of combat. Did I miss something?
I agree with you(to a certain extent), and I'm female. I don't think females should be in combat at all. I want some hardcore, kick a$$ men with special forces mentality to get the job done now. Our enemy is ruthless, no time to mess around!
Grew up in the 80s, loved those cartoons by the way ;)
that's BS....
and if you have "strong evidence" show it, and not just a WORLDNUTDAILY or RUMORMAX article.....
"I don't see that they are blaming women. It looks to me that the blame is attributed to people who look to keep women out of combat. Did I miss something?"
Yes.
If true, the blame belongs to PC indoctrination that put women into these units in the first place. Those seeking to prevent the degredation of combat effectiveness are not to blame. This is one more incident demonstrating the problems with post-modern claptrap.
It looks to me that the blame is attributed to people who look to keep women out of combat. Did I miss something?
Maybe. Donnelly was instrumental in getting women who had been training in a RSTA removed from the unit. Here's a pertinent snippet:
Early in 2002, several other conservative women's groups joined with Donnelly at a news conference in Washington, drawing attention to the violation of rules on women in combat, and calling for the DoD to abolish the old Defense Advisory Committee on Women in the Services (DACOWITS), which was apparently behind it all.
''Nothing was done, however, until I brought the matter to the attention of Deputy Secretary Dr. Paul Wolfowitz during a meeting in his office in April 2002. I told him about what had happened in December, and waited to see what he would say. He asked his aide to check it out, and he did.
''Two days later I was told that my information was accurate, and that the situation would be corrected. On April 26, 2002, Lt. Gen. John M. LeMoyne gave the order to reassign the women being trained in the RSTA squadron at Fort Lewis, restoring the program to compliance with law and policy.''
And:
What now confounds Donnelly is the fact that despite all the controversy about the RSTAs in 2001, which was resolved in favor of compliance with law and policy, the Army has now dropped the RSTAs from the list of units that are supposed to be coded all-male.
IMO, Donnelly is easily confounded. I can easily see how women would be valuable, especially in an urban situation, for ''Reconnaissance, Surveillance, Target Acquisition ''. The following is a snippet of an Army publication about Objective Force Concepts:
... Operations in urban and complex terrain require the Objective Force to aggressively accomplish a multitude of complex warfighting tasks:
(a) The first, and quite possibly the most difficult, operational challenge for the Objective Force will be the collection of intelligence. Intelligence collection is often hindered by limited LOS, the inability for the collection teams to see in densely vegetated, complex terrain, and the inability for collection teams to map structure interiors and subterranean passageways in urban terrain. As a rule, reconnaissance teams do not conduct extended surveillance operations due to sustainment issues, and the increased probability of detection over time. The presence of an enemy force that may be family or clan-based may inhibit the teams ability to fit in or hide within the urban area.
Maybe, if they're not from Kentucky ;-)
The Marine Corps has the right idea. That being said, there are numerous examples of women doing well in combat.
More like it was due to so-called women like Hitlery and Boxer back here at home than a handful of gals over there.
Yes. Re-read the title of the thread.
Did you miss this part?
PING!
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